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Sad christian brainwashing.
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RE: Sad christian brainwashing.
(March 8, 2014 at 1:04 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(March 8, 2014 at 12:45 pm)discipulus Wrote: So the matter really is whether or not Christianity is true. You see, the central tenets of Christianity are subject to verification and falsification,

oooooh! Look at the qualification in that statement! The "CENTRAL" tenets!

So why is it so necessary to constrain oneself to a set of especially selected "central" tenets?

The bible and the whole god story has to be perfect, down to every "jot and tittle" or else the whole story collapses. Only desperate apologists claim otherwise.

You do not have to constrain yourself if you do not want to.

If God raised Jesus from the dead on the Sunday morning following His crucifixion then Christianity is true i.e. God has come among men in the person of His Son Jesus.

Christianity stands or falls on this historical fact, not whether every word in the English translations of the Bible are "perfect" representatives of their Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek counterparts.

One does not have to believe in the inerrancy of scripture to be a Christian. I do not know where you got that from.

(March 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:
(March 8, 2014 at 12:45 pm)discipulus Wrote: So you would not consider me arrogant if I were relaying to you something that was factual?

I am glad you say that.

So the matter really is whether or not Christianity is true. You see, the central tenets of Christianity are subject to verification and falsification, which excludes it from the category of fantasy which you so desperately want it to be in.

It is fantasy, it doesn't require me placing it in that category.

And no, if you present facts that I'm unaware of that can be objectively proven or disproven, the sheer fact that I disagree with you, wouldn't cause me to view you as arrogant.

Christianity isn't based on facts. Sigh.

"We live in a fallen world," is not factual. Really, discipulus? lol

Christianity is based on historical events and facts. It seems to me that since you claim to have been raised around all of this then you would know this.
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Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Aractus - March 10, 2014 at 4:03 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by LastPoet - March 10, 2014 at 4:14 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by BrokenQuill92 - March 10, 2014 at 4:59 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Aractus - March 11, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 12:10 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by discipulus - March 8, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by discipulus - March 8, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by downbeatplumb - March 8, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by LittleAFish - March 8, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by discipulus - March 8, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by discipulus - March 8, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by DarkHorse - March 8, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by DarkHorse - March 9, 2014 at 3:50 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 8, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 10, 2014 at 3:23 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by DarkHorse - March 8, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Mudhammam - March 9, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 9, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Mudhammam - March 9, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Brakeman - March 9, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Mudhammam - March 9, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Faith No More - March 9, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by BrokenQuill92 - March 10, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Aractus - March 10, 2014 at 3:57 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by BrokenQuill92 - March 10, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Zen Badger - March 10, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by ronedee - March 10, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by BrokenQuill92 - March 11, 2014 at 3:00 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Aractus - March 11, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Zen Badger - March 11, 2014 at 6:17 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by BrokenQuill92 - March 11, 2014 at 6:28 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Faith No More - March 11, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by BrokenQuill92 - March 11, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: Sad christian brainwashing. - by Mudhammam - March 11, 2014 at 7:21 am

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