(March 8, 2014 at 11:26 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote:(March 8, 2014 at 11:19 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I actually kind of like the idea of Jesus suffering in heaven. It would make his sacrifice an actual sacrifice, you know? Not that I like the idea of an innocent person bearing the sins of the guilty, since that's far from being what justice is about, but this idea of a sacrifice going on seems to be abstract at best. Sin is not a physical thing. The most it could do is mentally traumatise someone, so is Jesus just a crazed lunatic now? Like a shellshocked veteran suffering from PTSD, cranked up to 11,000? If so, I'm not sure how he could rule over anything, as it says he does.
The whole 'sacrifice' bit is a crock from the get-go though; sacrificing an immortal is like cutting your hair. That shit grows back.
I know, right? How does an omnipotent being sacrifice anything? How is he weaker now than he was before? It's like if I cut my finger off, then had it sewn back together, and expected people to respect my "sacrifice". I mean, what good person wouldn't take the offer of saving people and ruling the world in exchange for being tortured for a week? Although the person who claims to want to save you is the one who put you in that position in the first place. Most of these stories just fall apart if you think about them too much. That's why many just say they're metaphors, because there really isn't any other way to explain them.
Be nice to people. That's a part of Jesus' teachings that pretty much anyone can agree on. No religion required. It's really damned hard, with so many people eagerly taking advantage of someone's generosity, but it's something any good parent will teach their children regardless of beliefs.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html