(December 14, 2008 at 8:16 pm)Daystar Wrote: Which, as I have pointed out to you a few times, is bullshit for two reasons. 1. You can't define god(s) or deity. and 2. A god can be anything. Science for example, is the god of the militant Atheists.Yes you can define gods or a deity. A god / deity is an intelligent force that created the universe. It is some kind of mind, or thinking being behind the entire thing. A God cannot simply be "anything", it has to have some kind of intelligent quality to it.
Science is a process of gaining knowledge. We do not worship it, nor do we hold it as intelligent. Science without man is worthless because it only works with man. A God, by definition can work alone (and apparently did according to your religious view of creation). We do not "believe" in science either. We look at the results of experiments and accept them as evidence, of which we can build theories based on that evidence. There is no doctrine because science only tells you what is reality, it doesn't tell you what to do about it.
Quote:* A belief in a non-demonstrable deity or deities [Yes. Evolution.]Evolution isn't a deity, it's a natural process that has no goal or intelligence.
* The necessity of prayer/worship/ceremony [Yes. Bill Maher]
* Places of worship [Yes. The Internet, Star Trek conventions]
* Holy books & scriptures [Yes. The Gospel according to Richard Dawkins]
* Religious authorities (priests, rabbi etc.) [Yes. Darwin. Dawkins.]
* Supernatural beliefs (e.g. angels, demons) [Yes. Aliens.]
* Acceptance of the miraculous [Yes. Evolution.]
* Lifestyle restrictions (dress, diet, marriage etc.) [Yes. Sin.]
* Belief without evidence (faith as a virtue) [Yes. Evolution.]
* Belief in spite of the evidence (anti-science) [Yes. Evolution.]
* Supernatural origins (of life, the universe) [Yes. Aliens.]
* The need to convert (doorstep preachers etc.) [Yes. Every election.]
* Comfort factor (that others go to better place) [Yes. Of course! Don't be stupid!]
Bill Maher is not an atheist, nor do we worship him.
#3 is just plain silly but I guess you tried your best...
I don't believe everything Richard Dawkins says, and he has changed his opinion on many things he has previously said. He doesn't tell people how to act either.
Darwin and Dawkins are wrong on many things, and they are certainly not authorities I would look to.
Aliens are natural...mainly because we exist and are aliens of the planet Earth. Statistics says that life probably does exist somewhere else in the universe (given the conditions we reckon life arises from).
You know nothing of the process of Evolution.
Prove sin exists first.
You know nothing of the process of Evolution.
You know nothing of the process of Evolution.
Abiogenesis is a science.
Since when did atheists ever get to hold public office in America?
...errr
