RE: Pull up a chair
March 18, 2014 at 2:20 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2014 at 2:21 pm by downbeatplumb.)
(March 17, 2014 at 7:22 pm)discipulus Wrote:(March 17, 2014 at 7:16 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: You seem to be confusing atheists replacing faith with science, you are wrong. I have always been an atheist even before I knew anything about science.
And of course atheism was around before science.
There have always been people who found religion unconvincing.
No. Atheists exercise faith when they maintain that their cognitive faculties are reliable.
Eh what has this got to do with not finding your position true which is all atheism is.
Quote: Faith here simply means to trust in something without being able to prove said something is reliable.
So faith is belief in something without evidence, on this we agree.
Quote:There is no way for you or any other atheist to step outside of their five senses to test their veridicality.
We have many more than five senses but that's a different story.
Anyhoo, that is why science is required, science is (among other things) a way of testing and reviewing things to eliminate false positives. It sets up experiments that would show a positive response if the position was false. Scientists actively try to disprove their own theories by stress testing them then putting the results out to peer review where quite often they are rejected.
Quote:You just trust that they are reliable without proof that they are (here proof refers to something concrete and empirical).
Understand?
Yes I understand and I think its stupid to live your life based on an unproven proposition.
Understand?
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.