RE: queston for Atheist
April 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2014 at 3:20 pm by Alex K.)
(April 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm)Tonus Wrote:(April 4, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Alex K Wrote: Maybe spidey suspects that his answers are crap and wanted a second opinionHe's selling himself short; the question was crap as well.
I find it amusing when you get someone who is clearly approaching the issue from the wrong end and doesn't realize that his own answer to his question really does answer the question. "How could the big bang have occurred? There must be an uncaused first cause!" Well, if you insist... there's an uncaused first cause. Let's just call it "the big bang" and press our "That Was Easy" button!
Yeah, the unawareness is astonishing. But then, such a glaring omission would be astonishing if spidey had come up with the argument himself and thought about it, but as it stands I've seen the identical speech so many times that my suspicion is that is just mindlessly regurgitated from what some pastor or creationist website offers as a talking point. So there's hope that we get spidey to think a bit.
So I'll give him the benefit of doubt, after all they say in the bible, ye who hath not a log in their own eyes shall cast the other cheek... or something.
I might add something to clear up a common misconception: one can have a spatially cyclical universe without visible internal curvature. This is a bit counterintuitive because we can only imagine such spaces curving back onto themselves, but that is a misleading intuition. The prime candidate of a spatially flat peridodic space is the three-torus.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition