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Contra Metaphysical Idealism
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RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism
(April 4, 2014 at 9:44 pm)bennyboy Wrote:


If everything is thought, what was the universe before there were homo sapiens? Or before there were any sapient beings?



The argument in the OP fails with the first premise.
"2) For every X, if X exists, then X is thought of. [premise 1]"

There is absolutely no justification of this. We discover things unthought of repeatedly.



And note that Schroedinger came up with his cat as an example of the absurdity of that interpretation. He believed it was always either dead or alive, not in some overlapped state.

And things are not "both wave and particle"; that is a completely erroneous understanding of 'wave/particle duality'. The duality is that some things exhibit behaviors that are like our concepts of waves or particles. Those things so described are what they are - they are neither waves nor particles, they are never 'being both'.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by MindForgedManacle - April 1, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 2, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Angrboda - April 2, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - April 2, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 2, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by MindForgedManacle - April 4, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 4, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 6, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 6, 2014 at 10:34 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 6, 2014 at 6:12 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 6, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 6, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 7, 2014 at 8:06 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 7, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 7, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 7, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 7, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 8, 2014 at 9:25 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 8, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 8, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 8, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 8, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 8, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 9, 2014 at 5:54 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 9, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - April 5, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 6, 2014 at 2:13 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Angrboda - April 7, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 7, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by MindForgedManacle - April 7, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 9, 2014 at 5:55 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 9, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 9, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 9, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Chas - April 9, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 9, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 9, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 9, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 9, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 9, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 9, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 9, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 10, 2014 at 6:40 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 10, 2014 at 6:51 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 10, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by tor - April 10, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 14, 2014 at 8:16 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 14, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 14, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 14, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by JuliaL - April 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 15, 2014 at 12:40 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Angrboda - April 15, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 15, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Angrboda - April 16, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 17, 2014 at 3:01 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Angrboda - April 17, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 17, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 18, 2014 at 7:03 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 20, 2014 at 12:50 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 20, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by bennyboy - April 20, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 21, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 17, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 16, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - April 16, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by Angrboda - April 16, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Contra Metaphysical Idealism - by archangle - April 17, 2014 at 9:03 am

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