Atheist arguments and the morality of God.

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There is that atheist perspective again! This, I think is the nub of this whole debate. I think the sentence above is 100% True. But only because I'm an atheist. And from that point of view it makes perfect sense because the inference is man invented (formulsted) God.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that theists are the ones whom tell us what God's attributes and such are. I'm not presupposing,atheism here. Even if theism were true it is still the case that theists present a definition of God which can then be evaluated for consistency with itself and other religious doctrines they hold.

As a Christian I would disagree with that. As a Christian I would say that God is the formulation of God. That he has a determinate reality and that our concept of God is simply what we observe of him. I might say things like that we know in part and we understand in part, or that we see through a glass darkly, or that the clay does not shape the Potter.

None of which contradicts what I said.

I might say that God requires our faith and that that means that he knows what he's doing. I might cite an example that a child being vaccinated does not understand that it's for his own good. Etc etc. You'd then get narky with me that a perfectly logical and sound argument (to you) was something I "didn't seem to understand".

These sorts of comparisons always fail outright. A theist comparing God to a parent is a false analogy. For one, the reason a human parent is limited by the intellectual capacity that the child has which the parent has no control over. Given his omnipotence, this is not something God could appeal to.
But worse, human parents CAN explain to their children why they must get a shot. I've a 4-year old brother who got one a couple of months back and he seemed to understand why he had to get it, even if he cried upon getting it.

And there is no such thing as an argument that is logically valid and sound only to one person. If the premises are in doubt, one must have sufficient reasons to rationally doubt them.

Is this sounding familier?

Yep. But familiarity is irrelevant.

What I'm trying to do here is give y'all an insight into a mindset. My theistic thought patterns are still fresh. I'm not attacking the core position, I'm Questioning whether this argument is going to get anyone there!

It's not like I've completely forgotten my mindset when I was a theist. :p But I repeat, are you really claiming that the problem of evil never got theists to doubt God?