(April 7, 2014 at 2:42 pm)alpha male Wrote:(April 7, 2014 at 2:03 pm)coldwx Wrote: The problem given was the morality of god, and this answer certainly does not convince me of that. "Who are we to know..." harkens back to answers such as "god works in mysterious ways" that are woefully insufficient. Perhaps you can elaborate? Are you saying god is not omnibenevolent or is not perfectly loving?Of course god isn't omnibenevolent.
Quote:If the desire or goal of god is not to spare the suffering of his creation,He didn't spare his own beloved son from suffering, or his chosen apostles, so it seems apparent that sparing suffering isn't his highest desire.
Quote:and human definitions of morality usually encompass this paradigm,I disagree. Suffering could be reduced greatly by human effort. Most people, as judged by their actions, find their own desires to be much more important than other people's suffering. Most people just pay lip service to suffering, and give just enough to assuage their guilt.
Quote:how else are we to judge god's morality?Correctly assessing our own morality would be a start.
1. So you are saying there does not exist a all-good, all-loving god? The one christians believe in is just a sadist then. Awesome, we agree and I guess no more conversation on this OP is needed. No reason to look to him for objective morality then.