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No God, but created?
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RE: No God, but created?
I think the OP is abusing the word information, just like creationists;
RationalWiki Wrote:Creationists, in an attempt to coat their myths with a veneer of science, have co-opted the idea of information theory to use as a plausible-sounding attack on evolution. Essentially, the claim is that the genetic code is like a language and thus transmits information, and in part due to the usual willful misunderstandings of the second law of thermodynamics (which is about energy, not information), they maintain that information can never be increased.[10] Therefore, the changes they cannot outright deny are defined as "losing information", while changes they disagree with are defined as "gaining information", which by their definition is impossible. Note that at no point do creationists actually specify what information actually is and often (thought not always, see complex specified information) will purposefully not define the concept. The creationists tend to change their meaning on an ad hoc basis depending on the argument, relying on colloquial, imprecise definitions of information rather than quantifiable ones -- or worse, switching interchangeably between different definitions depending on the context of the discussion or argument.

The deliberate conflation of the totally unrelated concepts of thermodynamic and informational entropy is, while an obvious flaw in the argument, a flaw that the creationists' intended audience is less likely to pick up on, so it remains a popular argument, as seen in Ken Ham's... debate with Bill Nye at the Creation Museum.
Also, I suspect OP is either a creationist or trolling.
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No God, but created? - by Jiggerj - September 12, 2013 at 8:50 am
RE: No God, but created? - by Psykhronic - September 12, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: No God, but created? - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: No God, but created? - by Jiggerj - September 12, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: No God, but created? - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: No God, but created? - by Jiggerj - September 12, 2013 at 10:35 am
RE: No God, but created? - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: No God, but created? - by orogenicman - September 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Tonus - September 12, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: No God, but created? - by orogenicman - September 12, 2013 at 9:15 am
RE: No God, but created? - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 12, 2013 at 9:15 am
RE: No God, but created? - by Psykhronic - September 12, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: No God, but created? - by LastPoet - September 12, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: No God, but created? - by pineapplebunnybounce - September 14, 2013 at 2:33 am
RE: No God, but created? - by MindForgedManacle - September 12, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by LostLocke - September 13, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: No God, but created? - by bennyboy - September 13, 2013 at 11:46 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by LostLocke - September 15, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: No God, but created? - by Minimalist - September 13, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Sinbad - April 16, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by truthBtold - April 16, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Walking Void - September 14, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: No God, but created? - by gilbertc06 - September 21, 2013 at 5:20 am
RE: No God, but created? - by tor - April 7, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Mudhammam - April 7, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by bennyboy - April 7, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Whateverist - April 7, 2014 at 10:08 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Sejanus - April 7, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by archangle - April 16, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Cato - April 16, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by archangle - April 16, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: No God, but created? - by Sinbad - April 17, 2014 at 8:28 am

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