(April 9, 2014 at 12:23 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(April 9, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Chas Wrote: But it does not follow that reality is somehow made of ideas or experience.You state this as a fact, but cannot actually know it to be a fact.
Ideas and experience occur in our minds - they are results not causes.
I state that because that is what the evidence tells us.
Quote: Don't believe me? What is a mind if you take away experiences and ideas? Is it still a mind?
Yes, I don't believe you. I don't understand your point. You continue to conflate input with output.
Quote:Quote:You are still asserting that science can't ever explain 'qualia'. You have no evidence of that.I've never made any assertion about the future of science. I've said there's no evidence that science can ever answer certain categories of questions: those about cosmogony, and those about the existence of qualia.
The belief that science can answer questions that are not of a like category with already-answered questions is an issue of faith, not of evidence.
I am making no assertion about what science can or can't do, you are. You claim that part or all of the mind is not a proper subject for science, but you have yet to provide any evidence for that. Just your incredulity.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.


