(April 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: So, you're saying that "heaven" is akin to the garden of eden? Therefore, we are capable of sin in heaven and we're capable of being kicked out? It seems like on a long enough time line, no one would be left. Where do they go?
What I'm saying is that originally there was no sin upon the earth. Satan being expelled from heaven onto the earth, caused sin to enter into the human race. Upon Jesus's return Satan is bound during the millennium and therefore will not be able to tempt anyone. ultimately he will be destroyed and sin along with him.
(April 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: I'll give you points for that being interesting, but I don't see that anywhere in all of the quotes you've provided. It seems beyond speculative.
What exactly is unclear.
(April 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: So, are you saying that God is incapable of making a plane of existence where people can be happy and not disbelieve it (and sin)? If not, why doesn't he create such a place?
As I stated before he did. Satan messed it up. When Jesus returns evil is wiped out and the world will return back to what it was in the beginning except this time without Satan. I think the misconception is that people will live in heaven, not so. The earth is remade and the "children of God dwell forever upon the earth as originally planned, only this time God himself also makes his dwelling upon the earth.
Revelation 21:3
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.