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Heaven and The Problem of Evil
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RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil
April 16, 2014 at 9:56 pm
(April 16, 2014 at 9:35 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Heaven is where you live in the presence of God among those that also love Him. Hell is where people voluntarily apart from God. The torture doesn't come from God. It comes from one's own "burning" lusts, living in the smoke and darkness of self delusions among others that think nothing of using others to satisfy their own desires. There is no compulsion.

Yes, there is a compulsion. It's either join God or don't be happy. It doesn't matter if God isn't the one doing the torture; he's the one who set up the punishment/reward system.

If I tell you "do X or Fred will kill you", that's still compulsion.
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Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 10, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Faith No More - April 10, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Ryantology - April 10, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 10, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by The Valkyrie - April 10, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Senshi - April 10, 2014 at 9:19 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 10, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by The Valkyrie - April 10, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Godlesspanther - April 10, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Senshi - April 10, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by MindForgedManacle - April 10, 2014 at 10:20 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by FifthElement - April 11, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by tor - April 11, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Anomalocaris - April 11, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 11, 2014 at 7:09 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 11, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Thackerie - April 13, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 11, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 11, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 11, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 16, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Ryantology - April 11, 2014 at 6:31 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Esquilax - April 11, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 12, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Ryantology - April 12, 2014 at 6:46 pm
Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Rampant.A.I. - April 11, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 11, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Tonus - April 11, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Esquilax - April 11, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by truthBtold - April 11, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Minimalist - April 11, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 11, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Senshi - April 11, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 12, 2014 at 10:21 am
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RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Angrboda - April 12, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2014 at 6:21 pm
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RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 12, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 12, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 15, 2014 at 11:43 am
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RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 15, 2014 at 12:02 pm
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RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by truthBtold - April 15, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by truthBtold - April 15, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 15, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Godlesspanther - April 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 15, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 15, 2014 at 2:32 pm
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RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by *Deidre* - April 15, 2014 at 10:52 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 16, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by truthBtold - April 16, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 16, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 16, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Ryantology - April 16, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 16, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - April 16, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 16, 2014 at 9:56 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Ryantology - April 16, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 18, 2014 at 8:18 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 16, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 15, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Esquilax - April 13, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Tonus - April 13, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by MindForgedManacle - April 12, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 13, 2014 at 8:36 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by tor - April 13, 2014 at 9:25 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 13, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 13, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 13, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by professor - April 13, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Godlesspanther - April 13, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 14, 2014 at 9:21 am
Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Rampant.A.I. - April 15, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Creed of Heresy - April 15, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by truthBtold - April 15, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by JuliaL - April 15, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 15, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Silver - April 15, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by truthBtold - April 15, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Godlesspanther - April 15, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 15, 2014 at 2:26 pm
Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Rampant.A.I. - April 15, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 15, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Huggy Bear - April 15, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by RobbyPants - April 15, 2014 at 10:52 pm
Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Rampant.A.I. - April 15, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 16, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Coffee Jesus - April 16, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by Ryantology - April 16, 2014 at 5:00 pm
RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil - by ThomM - April 16, 2014 at 5:24 pm

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