This is What Pisses Me Off About The Democrats

[DeistPaladin]

Then why mention the MBA at all? Why not just present the evidence?

Because of all the money and two years of my life spent gaining it give me some bragging rights and dammit I'm going to use them.

By-the-way things like that don't invoke a fallacy, the same as calling someone an idiot while presenting a case isn't an ad hominem. It's using authority or an insult in place of an argument (rather than in addition to) that invokes the fallacy.

I am not sure what a tea bagger is but ok.

That's what they originally called themselves. Today, in supreme arrogance, they call themselves "The Tea Party" and our corporate controlled media lets them get away with it. I refuse out of respect for our Founding Fathers and the patriots that founded this country. Just because you put a tricorner hat on your head doesn't make you a Founding Father. These people are posers and cosplayers, and bad ones at that.

You provide nothing to support any of this but ok.

? This is how accountants track costs of doing business. Among other practices, they divide costs between fixed and variable. I pointed out how in practice the line between the two can be fuzzy, that labor can be more or less efficient based on whether or not you are at capacity. What part did you have problems with?

If you did not know what the other two companies were going to do what would compel you to do this? You’re ascribing yourself a level of omniscience in this scenario that is unrealistic.

Anticipating your competition is an important business skill but aside from that, I'm demonstrating the effects of three different courses of action and why accepting a lower contribution margin is the most rational.

Bare assertion. I see no reason why this is impossible.

What is your problem here? Four people can't suddenly do the work of five. If they could have, why did you have five people at any time? No rational business person hires extra people for no reason. If you employ someone, you are already trying to get maximum efficiency in terms of their production or else you were already mismanaging your company before this scenario even got started.

Another bare assertion.

I do not think that fallacy means what you think it means.

If you could increase your worker productivity by 25% at any time, why haven't you already done it? And if you have that option now because of some new technology, why wouldn't you do it immediately regardless of what the minimum wage is?

You’ve already stated that you are willing to take a loss out of the kindness of your heart,

Sorry, when did "kindness" or "heart" come into my decision making process? I did say you shouldn't make business decisions out of spite, especially when the course of action is self-destructive. I'm talking about pursuing profit maximization and the most rational course of action toward it. If it happens to work toward a kind end, well, that's nice.

I find it hard to believe you’d lay off workers simply in order to automate.

You'd be shocked, then. Cut my labor costs and still service my customers? Yes, please! Employment lost to automation finds its way into other sectors of the economy and still manages to increase the wealth of the whole. Perhaps we'll eventually move to a more leisurely time when automation will allow all of us to work half the week or something.

My motive in the scenario I mapped out was servicing my customers and boosting sales, making up for the decreased margin with volume.

Not at all, I have personally seen it happen.

Many people have throughout human history but it is beside the point here. It's a distraction and so it is a red herring.

Again, I see no reason as to why any of this must necessarily occur.

Then your grasp of business management is so frail that I'm not sure how to explain anything to you.

If they reduce to 80 units a day the quality would then go back up because each employee is only producing 20 widgets a day. You’ve just proven my point; all you have successfully done is cost an employee their job.

...at that company. Read on.

Now you’ve cost two workers their jobs.

...at that company. Read on.

Nice sleight of hand. What money are you using to hire these two employees? You already “bit the bullet” and reduced your profit margin to only $300/day, how are you affording two new employees (you cannot say from the additional 40 widgets sold a day because you do not currently have the employees to produce more than 100 widgets per day)?

I do after hiring the two workers from my competition. What part of that are you struggling with?

You’re stuck at 100 widgets per day...

Why am I "stuck" at 100 per day? What force prevents me from meeting the demand of the markets? And even if I couldn't, for some strange reason you haven't explained, why would there not be other entries into the market? Where there is unmet demand, suppliers will enter the market. That is the beauty of capitalism.

Nope, your volume cannot increase until your labor first increases; cart before the horse.

What prevents me from increasing my labor, especially with trained labor ready to go? Are you so dim that you think business can't hire new employees to meet expected demand in the future?

A delightful fantasy, but unfortunately nothing more.

"F". See me after class.

“You can have all the free speech you want as long as you keep your mouth shut.”

When did I say people need to keep their mouths shut? The Koch brothers can go preach on the street corners as well as anyone else. What's unfair is they can buy congress people and buy ad time so their speech is more powerful than anyone else's? Everyone's speech must be equal. No one should have more speech than anyone else.

If I want to buy airtime to say whatever I want, and if someone wants to sell it to me it’s my right to do so. Take your fascism elsewhere.

So you think rich people should just be able to buy the government and dominate our political discussions and poor people can go fuck themselves? Hmmmm, what is the definition of fascism again? Government run by corporate interests, I recall. If one of us is a fascist, it sounds like it's YOU.