RE: The theist evolution argument
May 3, 2014 at 1:15 am
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2014 at 1:18 am by Whateverist.)
(May 2, 2014 at 9:54 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(May 2, 2014 at 9:47 am)Jason_ab Wrote: No, he doesn't, he quotes two guys Barem and Tippler.
I think I could agree that the odds of evolution to human from natural selection were extraodinary slim. Don't misinderstand what I am saying, OF COURSE the evolution theory is valid, the argument is whether it was possible without devine superintention.
It is a quite big video, the specific argument is articulated at 56:27 from Craig.
The interesting fact is that he got no answer from Hitchens.
You seem to be under the impression that humans are the inevitable consequence of evolution.
In this, you are mistaken.
Yes, the chances of humanity evolving as we did are extremely slim. And such is the case for every other species alive.
But all that means is that chance fell our way, nothing else.
And as Max says, after the fact, the one out of a kazillion chance that actually happened will seem incredibly special. But in fact each time you run the experiment, there has to be some result or other.
(May 2, 2014 at 9:55 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Take yourself as an example. Given the number of eggs your Mom produced in her life, the incredible number of sperm your Dad cycled through in his life, and the specific timing of the mating that produced you, what were the odds of you existing, with the exact DNA that you happen to have? VERY VERY small. Repeat that statistical thinking back through just a few generations, and you are looking at a chance for you to exist that is practically infinitesimal. And yet, here you are.
In hindisight, probability doesn't mean anything.
Yeah it makes the one-in-a-million lucky sperm that became me seem a dime a dozen. Oh hell, everyone was as lucky and special as I was, weren't they? Damn.
