RE: I hate Misandry and feminism.
May 3, 2014 at 6:34 pm
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2014 at 6:53 pm by Gooders1002.)
Ok now I am awake and sober, I will clarify my position.
This is going to be a long post so i put it into sections
My reply to Losty
For instance 11762 people died of breast cancer in 2011, 11684 of those were female, 78 were male were as 10793 men died of prostate cancer. Now that’s a 8.3% difference but the funding for prostate cancer is far lower than it should be (I can’t find the figures but there stupidly small)
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-i...cerdeaths/
Rape as defined in section 1 of the sexual offences act.
(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
© A does not reasonably believe that B consents.
So a woman can force a man to penetrate her and is not rape, and if she gets pregnancy she can claim child support off him.
My reply to No God
A: The woman leaves and she is not capable of supporting herself and the children and completely relies on him as the bread winner, she can not only take the house (which here is paid for by him), his money and the children. These leave him with almost nothing and may even force him onto the streets if he has no were to stay and no family.
B: The woman leaves but she is more than capable of supporting herself and the children and they split the house (because she paid 50/50) and stuff like that, why then would she need Alimony from the ex?
My reply to Rev. Rye
Furthermore, do you know what men prefer not to seek treatment? If down to the fact that in there young life they were leave alown to cry it out and not have any sympathy on the and just told to man up at a young age. So by the time there adults it’s ingrained into them that there worthless, not worth sympathy and that trying to get help is pointless. Then people ask why does he not ask for help,
A. Be fit enough (both physically and mentally) to fight on the front lines without being a liability to the rest of the squad.
B. To be willing to self-sacrifice the rest of the squad to survive.
C. To put in the same about of effort as the male squad mates and to pull their own weight.
D. Be ready to be pulled to the front lines whenever there needed regardless if they have children or not and to have that plans for that.
I will bet you not many and yet they want the same pay but for not doing the same amount of work. But if then did, then they deserve every penny.
http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.o...06.html#n3 this has all the references you need.
So yes it is just as damaging.
The reason is that men are losing their male role models at an early age, something boys need, on average a boy from single mother household (which is coming more increasely common) will not see a male role model until secondary school. This is important as in early age boys will associate learning and education as female and feminine thus when the boys go to secondary school they switch of as they think that it’s not for them. Also having a father figure promotes empathy, focus fairness, competition, and sportsmanship. Which is benefital to both genders.
Now considering that boys are now less motived to learn and grow we lose are next great minds, the minds that can send us to to the moon, to cure cancer, to engineer the next internet. I am not saying woman have not contributed because they have like: Marie Curie (discovered radiation and the effects of it), Tabitha Babbit (the circular saw), Bette Nesmith Graham (liquid paper), Admiral Grace Murray Hooper (the compiler and COBOL computer language), Mathar Coston (the coloured flare), Josephine Cochrane (the dishwasher), Staphine Kwolek (Kevlar), just to name a few. But most of the life changing inventions and theory’s were made by men. This is mostly down to most woman are not interested in STEM jobs but the ones who are then by all means.
I can go on.
I hope I cleared that up.
If women what equal rights to men they need to share those responsibilities as well and I am all for gender equal rights as long as there is gender equal responabiliy.
This is going to be a long post so i put it into sections
My reply to Losty
(May 3, 2014 at 5:38 am)Losty Wrote: I get it, I really do, but it's hard to take this seriously. Probably because so many complaints are either false or ridiculous. Women do not work on roads, men do. False.I am not saying that there are not women working on the road but when what the last time a women was killed working on roads?
Where I live in the US we see two signs near roadside construction. Sign 1) Please slow down, my daddy works here. Sign 2) please slow down, my mommy works here.
There are more men who work on roads than women surely, but it is not true that women do not work on roads.
Quote:Why is there a breast cancer awareness month? Ridiculous.While I do agree, prostate cancer is the 4th larger cause of death by cancer in the uk after breast cancer.
Because people (yes men can also get breast cancer) die from breast cancer simply because they don't get checked for it and/or they don't know it runs in their family. Why is this sexist?? It's not.
For instance 11762 people died of breast cancer in 2011, 11684 of those were female, 78 were male were as 10793 men died of prostate cancer. Now that’s a 8.3% difference but the funding for prostate cancer is far lower than it should be (I can’t find the figures but there stupidly small)
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-i...cerdeaths/
Quote:Why have you never seen a story in the news about a man being raped? FalseWell men are raped more in equal numbers but A. its not reported B. not taken seriously C. the law says is not possible for a man to be raped by a women
I have seen a story in the news about a man being raped.
The stories are less common, because men are less likely to be raped and less likely to report being raped. It is a terrible thing that our society views rape as something that only happens to women, or only matters when it happens to women. It sucks and it's wrong.
Rape as defined in section 1 of the sexual offences act.
(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
© A does not reasonably believe that B consents.
So a woman can force a man to penetrate her and is not rape, and if she gets pregnancy she can claim child support off him.
My reply to No God
(May 3, 2014 at 8:28 am)No_God Wrote: First off, in a marriage the house isn't just the husband's you are assuming that men own everything. Marriage is a partnership. If my husband and I agree that I'll stay at home with the kids for a few years, and he decides to leave me or we divorce, allimony protects ME from being homeless and on the streets because for the past several years I've been at home with children and not working. I'm not saying men don't get taken advantage of and sometimes that shit can be really fucked up but understand that if you marry someone you are legally binding everything you both own to each other including your income. I'd have to pay allimony to my husband if he was a stay at home dad. As for children, divorce is ugly as fuck and often times kids get used as assets for money and power when marriages split. In addition to that, allimony only gives what can be given. You can't milk a dry utter.Why I agree that alimony is good for if he leaves her and she is incapable of looking after the children and herself. However I don’t in the following scenarios
P.s. Sorry for bad grammar I'm on my phone.
A: The woman leaves and she is not capable of supporting herself and the children and completely relies on him as the bread winner, she can not only take the house (which here is paid for by him), his money and the children. These leave him with almost nothing and may even force him onto the streets if he has no were to stay and no family.
B: The woman leaves but she is more than capable of supporting herself and the children and they split the house (because she paid 50/50) and stuff like that, why then would she need Alimony from the ex?
Quote:Also, women would die for their country and be on the front line but WE'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THE INFANTRY.I can agree with you there but A. do you want to and B. would you be strong enough both mentally and physically to be on the front lines? I mean if you want to fight side by side with male solders on the front lines, more power to you but you would have to meet those same standards or you will be a liability to not only yourself but your squad as well. I can say this for police and fire services as well, if your not strong enough for the job (like being able to carry a 70kg man down a pair of firefighters ladders or go toe to toe with drunk and violent criminals on your own) then your nothing but a liability and this goes for both genders. I would never put a man who cannot carry 100kg ladder or a 60kg fully grown man on a fire fighter squad then why would I put a women who cannot meet those same standards as well.
My reply to Rev. Rye
(May 3, 2014 at 11:03 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:I think you’re missing the point, I think it’s totally unacceptable for anybody to hurt anybody (unless in self-defence). And yes I agree men did oppress woman for a millennia and that’s wrong on so many levels and has been corrected but the owns being oppressed in the west are pretty much dead now so we can move on but not repeat the mistakes of the past.(May 3, 2014 at 12:18 am)Gooders1002 Wrote: [*]Why is it ok for a woman to beat a man in public but not the oppersiteQuite frankly, it's because men have had the power for millennia. It's a little thing I call the "Tom and Jerry Factor." Think about it: Imagine if there was a Tom and Jerry cartoon where Tom killed and ate Jerry, like cats do to mice in real life. Now imagine that the entire Tom and Jerry series was like that. It'd be a whole lot less funny, wouldn't it? A big part of what makes them funny is the fact that the whole premise of "mouse outwits cat and causes him pain" is such a quantum leap from normal experience that it becomes acceptable.
Quote:Well the number is more likely to be around the 70-75% mark and while I agree it may be down to drugs and physical injury/mental illness its more likely to be relationship breakdown, aka there wifes taking everything they have and though them on the street. (Just on a side note, I have talked so some homeless around where I live and most were kicked out by there ex’s, I am not putting to this as direct evidence but just who I have been talking to.)Quote:[*]Why is it that 90% of all homeless are men?,Looking it up, it seems that males make up the majority of homeless people, but it doesn't seem the proportion is as high as 90%. That said, it seems like there are several facets of male traditional gender roles that contribute to it. For instance, men are more likely to be veterans, an experience that often leads to mental problems, and given that many aren't provided for after serving, this often leads to. Also, men often prefer to not seek treatment for mental illness or drug abuse.
Furthermore, do you know what men prefer not to seek treatment? If down to the fact that in there young life they were leave alown to cry it out and not have any sympathy on the and just told to man up at a young age. So by the time there adults it’s ingrained into them that there worthless, not worth sympathy and that trying to get help is pointless. Then people ask why does he not ask for help,
Quote:I do agree with that, however if a women want to fight and die on the front lines with men the I am happy for them, I have no problem. However how many woman do you think would?:Quote:[*]why is it that only men are put on the front line for war (and die by the 10000's) and never woman even though woman want equily pay?,Because traditionally, only men were presumed fit for military duty.
A. Be fit enough (both physically and mentally) to fight on the front lines without being a liability to the rest of the squad.
B. To be willing to self-sacrifice the rest of the squad to survive.
C. To put in the same about of effort as the male squad mates and to pull their own weight.
D. Be ready to be pulled to the front lines whenever there needed regardless if they have children or not and to have that plans for that.
I will bet you not many and yet they want the same pay but for not doing the same amount of work. But if then did, then they deserve every penny.
Quote:While I agree, the law is still biased in the women favour, like I said earlier if a women is earning enough to both support herself and the kids, why would she need the extra money from the farther. If single fathers with jobs can pull it off, so can single mothers.Quote:[*]Why is it that only 6% of custody cases go to the men over children, even when at least half the time they would be better with the father?,Because, traditionally, women were considered homemakers who were only good for raising kids and keeping house, and were, therefore, seen as actually needing that sort of thing. As women enter the workforce more and more, this is becoming less and less common.
[*]Why can a woman divorce a men (which the weman can of earned none of the money), take the house, 50% his money, the kids (can can legally block him from seeing them) and for him to pay for the kids for 20 years (if if she is fully able to support the kids)?,
Quote:I do agree that both FGM and MGM are bad, the benefits of MGM are negatable at best. Most people don’t realise the damage that is done not only physically but mentally as well. No only are you cutting of a piece of his body without this permission and for not really benefit (which is abuse). The feel extreme pain, terror and helplessness (all of which leads to the I am disposable menaity later in life be at least females at emotional looked after the FGM), have a dislike of doctors, can die because of the pain, later in life have a stranger reaction to pain, shorter penises, reduced sexual pleasure, are more likely to suffer low self-esteem increased sexual violence, rape and higher rates of divore.Quote:[*]Why do we go on about FGM and not MGM?,Because, simply put, the damage done by circumcision is nowhere near as damaging as the removal of the clitoris (Type 1), labia (Type 2), or a full-on Sadean sewing the genitalia shut (Type 3). I personally was circumcised and I honestly don't miss my foreskin.
In addition, studies have shown that circumcision in males can reduce the risks for several STDs. Nothing of the sort has shown any benefit coming from FGM.
http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.o...06.html#n3 this has all the references you need.
So yes it is just as damaging.
Quote:Ok, so you want me to explain, fine more than happy to.Quote:[*]Why are there no men in primary education anymore at a time when there most needed?,Why exactly are they "most needed?" Also, a little over a century ago, men weren't even allowed to be in primary education.
The reason is that men are losing their male role models at an early age, something boys need, on average a boy from single mother household (which is coming more increasely common) will not see a male role model until secondary school. This is important as in early age boys will associate learning and education as female and feminine thus when the boys go to secondary school they switch of as they think that it’s not for them. Also having a father figure promotes empathy, focus fairness, competition, and sportsmanship. Which is benefital to both genders.
Now considering that boys are now less motived to learn and grow we lose are next great minds, the minds that can send us to to the moon, to cure cancer, to engineer the next internet. I am not saying woman have not contributed because they have like: Marie Curie (discovered radiation and the effects of it), Tabitha Babbit (the circular saw), Bette Nesmith Graham (liquid paper), Admiral Grace Murray Hooper (the compiler and COBOL computer language), Mathar Coston (the coloured flare), Josephine Cochrane (the dishwasher), Staphine Kwolek (Kevlar), just to name a few. But most of the life changing inventions and theory’s were made by men. This is mostly down to most woman are not interested in STEM jobs but the ones who are then by all means.
Quote:I said killed onscreen not discovered onscreen. Where are all the woman killed in the same way and in the same numbers as Alex murphy in Robocop, the bad guys in Rambo 4, the deaths in green mile, The massacre in both expendables, every death in saving private ryan, the gun shot (DiCaprio) in the departed, the slow deaths in saw and final destination (and sequels), all the deaths in the alien films.Quote:[*]Why are men always killed on screen in some of the most horrific way but women are always killed off screen?,You sure about that?
I can go on.
I hope I cleared that up.
(May 3, 2014 at 2:58 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:Oh I totally agree, but the problem we have is not only equal rights but equal responsibilities as well. Most feminist what all of the rights of men without the responsibility, men needed the right to own property so that they could support there familes, most men did not get the vote until a few years before women (which i agreed is unequal), women were not aloud in the higher paying jobs as it was the men that needed the money to support there families (not so much these days) also some of these jobs women are not biologically suited to. So there were reasons, some of these reasons are BS now but for the time completely justifiable.(May 3, 2014 at 12:18 am)Gooders1002 Wrote:
Misandry, Noun: Dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e., the male sex)
I need to rant,
I have been watching how men are now the underclass and whether you believe it or not, do not exist in PC vocalabaly. And to be honestly, it is destroying our culture.
Don't believe me then:Do I really need to continue? or do you get the point because I have barely scratched the surface.
- Why is it ok for a woman to beat a man in public but not the oppersite
- Why is that men have no say in reproduction
- Why is it that men are never mentioned in the media except when they done something wrong,(just an example:
- Why is it that 90% of all homeless are men?,
- why is it that only men are put on the front line for war (and die by the 10000's) and never woman even though woman want equily pay?,
- Why is it that boys are falling behind in school and NOTHING is being done about it?,
- Why is it that only 6% of custody cases go to the men over children, even when at least half the time they would be better with the father?,
- Why can a woman divorce a men (which the weman can of earned none of the money), take the house, 50% his money, the kids (can can legally block him from seeing them) and for him to pay for the kids for 20 years (if if she is fully able to support the kids)?,
- Why is it that they is a push to get woman into jobs A. They don't want to do B.Are unable to do?,
- Why do we go on about FGM and not MGM?,
- Why are there no men in primary education anymore at a time when there most needed?,
- Why in the media are men always belittled by a smart faster stronger female in EVERYTHING?,
- Why do woman on average get more years of pension?,
- Why is it that its always a man who has to give up everything (sometimes even his life) for a woman?
- Why are women earning on average more (let me clarifly this one, even though men get paid higher, there taxes are higher, there insurance is higher, there expenses are higher which in case a woman takes home more money)
- Why is it funny to have a man kicked in the balls or have his manhood damaged but never a woman?,
- Why are men always killed on screen in some of the most horrific way but women are always killed off screen?,
- Why do we have woman only parking spaces, resturants, cabs, shealters and soon a city and its not counted as discrimation but if a man tried to do it, it's sexist?,
This feminist culture has made men disposable and effeminatised and reguards them as nothing but lasy, stupid, weak, morrons. infact its so bad I know men who what nothing to do with wemon and go there own way which is distorying the family and the west is following japan.
If you think I am lying, don't believe me and look it up for your self. As this is a real issue and the sooner you know the better. I want you to refute me call me out but atleast look it up for yourself as Feminism has distoryed the family and possabliy the next great genuioses of the world.
BTW its so bad even wemon are complaning and may are former feminists.
(* all of the stats may vary as i am too angry and drunk to look them up)
There are injustices to men in the world, no doubt. But, here's a stat that you missed. ALL WOMEN at one point, and in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't all that long ago, weren't permitted to vote. Weren't permitted to own property. Weren't permitted to work certain jobs. AN ENTIRE GENDER.
Now, someone here -- can't remember who...brought up in another thread recently, that all men are required when they turn 18 to sign up for the military. This is mandatory. 18 yr old girls aren't required.
If we are ever going to halt the gender bias, then both genders have to start being viewed equally. Not only when it's convenient.
If women what equal rights to men they need to share those responsibilities as well and I am all for gender equal rights as long as there is gender equal responabiliy.
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'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain