(May 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote:(May 3, 2014 at 2:58 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: There are injustices to men in the world, no doubt. But, here's a stat that you missed. ALL WOMEN at one point, and in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't all that long ago, weren't permitted to vote. Weren't permitted to own property. Weren't permitted to work certain jobs. AN ENTIRE GENDER.
Now, someone here -- can't remember who...brought up in another thread recently, that all men are required when they turn 18 to sign up for the military. This is mandatory. 18 yr old girls aren't required.
If we are ever going to halt the gender bias, then both genders have to start being viewed equally. Not only when it's convenient.
I know that the fact that women couldn't vote until recently is bad. I think you will find very few people that still think that women shouldn't be afforded the ability to vote.
Now I'm not trying to turn this into gender pissing contest, but the fact that men are still required to register in the Selective Service and that 99% of the casualties of war since the start of civilization have been men is at least as bad as the history of women women's voting rights. If your talking what has been done to entire genders, war has been run on the fuel of men's lives. This should be a big deal, on the same level as women's voting rights. But if you sit in on a history class there will be no mention of this blind unfairness, no mention on the news, no mention from feminist groups.
And I believe it's because there is a very generalized view of how gender roles played out, which is that one group got all the benefits and the other group got royally screwed. When in reality, both groups got screwed and reaped benefits in different areas. And who set the roles in the first place?But I think the Selective Service is also a perfect example of this. I have tried searching but I have not found many instances where feminist groups actively take on the discrepancy in the Selective Service. And the ones I have found broach the topic that the SS is sexist because it implies that women are not capable of fighting in war. From their perspective the law implies that women are not equal to men. But from my perspective, the law implies that men are not equal to women. Because no one should be required to join the military or forfeit their rights.
I'll have you know that I was unaware of the selective service mandate for men only until you pointed it out. I'm now sharing that with other unaware people.
Paying it forward so to speak.
In my eyes, where modern feminism has taken a turn for the worse is when it started telling women that we should demand equal rights and freedoms without having equal responsibility. That isn't what feminism was intended to be about.
