(May 6, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Yes the World Trade Center was attacked in 1993 and 2001 because Bush invaded Iraq in 2003. Effects now precede their causes. Makes perfect sense.Tsk tsk. This is dishonest. You removed the context (why the UN might have an anti-American bias) to change the topic to why terrorists attacked us. This is called quote mining. Additionally, you glossed over the "like" part of the sentence, which indicates this invasion was an example.
Quote:Which international law was violated? I need specifics.First of all, the entire Iraq War was a war crime.
You can't just invade a country because you want to. That's called a crime of aggression.
Second, the incidents of torture at Abu Garab are examples of crimes against humanity. We have also illegally detained suspects without trial, some of whom might be terrorists and some of who might have been turned in by bounty hunters but are in reality just people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. We have no idea because we won't bring them to trial.
As a result of our aggression and botched reconstruction of Iraq, the latter largely due to the previous administrations pie-in-the-sky assumptions that the people would welcome us with sweets and flowers and we'd all go off in the sunset together singing "hosanna hosanna".
But I am glad that W Bush wasn't president during World War II. The Japanese would have bombed us at Pearl Harbor and W would have responded by invading the Soviet Union.
Quote:Your eagerness to ascribe to every conspiracy theory under the sun regarding the Bush administration
Conspiracy theory? These are documented facts. We DID invade Iraq. We DO have documented lies that were told prior to the invasion. There is no conspiracy theory. There is history.
Quote:and reluctance to even consider ones under the Obama administration has nothing to do with their political affiliations would it?The allegations against Obama over Benghazi haven't even been articulated clearly (the reason for the OP) never mind proven.
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