RE: Radical Muslims threaten South Park creators
April 26, 2010 at 3:44 am
(This post was last modified: April 26, 2010 at 3:45 am by Fluké.)
(April 24, 2010 at 10:04 am)Paul the Human Wrote: When I first read that post, my gut reaction was "Yeah, there's no reason to be offensive"... then I clicked Kudos and forgot about it. Now I come back and read the rest of the responses and I have removed my Kudos. The others are right. Why do them the favor of withholding your scorn? They certainly aren't withholding theirs. Besides, this is atheistforums.org. Home turf. We can be as open about our feelings here as anywhere else... or more so.
Everyone seems to think that religion is something that must be handled with kid gloves. 'You must respect the beliefs of others', we are told. That's bullshit. I don't respect the beliefs and I don't respect willful ignorance. I may not be as verbally aggressive about it as some, but I do agree with the sentiments when I read them. The religion of Islam is retarded and hypocritical... just like the rest of them.
One on one in the real world is a bit different. I will try to remain more civil than I might in an online setting, but that is only because it is the only productive way to have a conversation, rather than a heated argument/shouting match. That isn't the same as 'respecting them'.
You're talking about something completely different.
You're implying that I said "You must respect the beliefs of others". I never said that.
All I am saying is that there is a big difference between respecting people's belief and being disrespectful towards people *themselves*. I don't generally like old people. They usually annoy me in public. But that doesn't give me the position to be insulting towards them. Perhaps that was just the way I was brought up.
Now, I have actually met Dawkins. And he has made it vocal that people who go around insulting religious people for the sake of it (and not their beliefs) don't do so under the umbrella of atheism. At no point, did I suggest religion should be considered worthy of respect and therefore immune from criticism. If you want to go around calling Muslims fuckers. Then go ahead, but that's not atheism.