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		Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm 
		
	 
	
		http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-2...04083.html
Quote:Islamic Court: UAE Says Wife, Child Beating OK - Just Don't Leave Any Marks 
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 4:04 pm 
		
	 
	
		Dude man, you're judging their culture man. That's not right man. /sarcasm
	 
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 4:05 pm 
		
	 
	
		Fucking idiot........ see how I didn't say idiots? 
	 
	
	
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 5:03 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (October 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote:  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-2...04083.html 
 
 
Quote:Islamic Court: UAE Says Wife, Child Beating OK - Just Don't Leave Any Marks 
 
 
Barbarians. 
/shrugs
 
It's legal to beat your kids in Florida as punishment as long as you don't leave any lasting marks.  It's also legal to restrain them if they are a danger to themselves or others.  Look it up, it's actually spelled out in the state statutes.
 
The wife part?  Not so cool with that.
	  
	
	
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 5:57 pm 
		
	 
	
		Well, making the beating of wives permissible in Islam is not the same thing as supporting it. No one said that it's a good thing. It's better not to hit them at all.  
The important thing to know is that the beating is allowed only for a good reason such as to discipline them. And the beating cannot be anything severe. It's just a light type of beating as parents do to their children. But again, it's encouraged by Islam not to hit our wives or children and instead be patient towards them as much as possible.  
 Quote:"The law does not ask husbands to beat their wives, it only means a man cannot be charged with anything if the beating did not leave any marks," Dr al Shamsi said. "It is a beating for discipline, not a violent or a vengeful beating. The Prophet said: Only a wicked person hits his wife." 
Here is the full story:
 http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/...discipline
	 
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 6:02 pm 
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		 (October 19, 2010 at 5:57 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  Well, making the beating of wives permissible in Islam is not the same thing as supporting it. No one said that it's a good thing. It's better not to hit them at all.  
 
The important thing to know is that the beating is allowed only for a good reason such as to discipline them. And the beating cannot be anything severe. It's just a light type of beating as parents do to their children. But again, it's encouraged by Islam not to hit our wives or children and instead be patient towards them as much as possible.   
 
Quote:"The law does not ask husbands to beat their wives, it only means a man cannot be charged with anything if the beating did not leave any marks," Dr al Shamsi said. "It is a beating for discipline, not a violent or a vengeful beating. The Prophet said: Only a wicked person hits his wife." 
 
Here is the full story: 
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/...discipline 
So wickedness is okay, then?    Could the wife be given the same latitude for the same wickness?   Or is that equitable proposition too much for omnipotence?
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 6:18 pm 
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		 (October 19, 2010 at 6:02 pm)Chuck Wrote:  So wickedness is okay, then?  Could the wife be given the same latitude for the same wickness?  Or is their equitable proposition too much for omnipotence? 
How did I imply that wickedness is okay? But to answer your question, no, wickedness is not okay. It's a bad thing.   
	 
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 6:25 pm 
		
	 
	
		Quote:The important thing to know is that the beating is allowed only for a good reason such as to discipline them.  
Discipline them? 
 
Oh,so a wife is inferior to her husband,as a child needing to be taught proper behaviour,not an equal?  That seems to contradict a basic premise of Islam; the equality of the  sexes. There is a technical term here in Australia  for men who beat their wives; 'criminals' as such behaviour  is felony assault.
 
 My mother had a friend whose husband liked to discipline her too. At mother's suggestion, her friend began taking a hammer to bed and putting it under her pillow, saying nothing. The disciplining ceased.
 
Hitting any creature,animal or human,weaker than oneself  is unmanly and cowardly. 
 
MY parents were married for 60 years. My mother is  difficult  to live with. My father NEVER hit my mother,ever.Two possible reasons are that dad despised wife beaters and because mum would simply have left.
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 7:39 pm 
		
	 
	
		Quote:Well, making the beating of wives permissible in Islam is not the same thing as supporting it 
Yes it is.  The opposite would be condemning it but the koran remains suspiciously silent.
 
We both know why.  It was written by men.
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Damned Muslims  
		October 19, 2010 at 8:13 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (October 19, 2010 at 6:18 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  How did I imply that wickedness is okay? 
In the following way:
  (October 19, 2010 at 5:57 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  Well, making the beating of wives permissible in Islam ........ Only a wicked person hits his wife." 
Unless you meant Islam has erred.
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	 
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