(April 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm)te1148 Wrote: In your mind, is your primary reason for not believing in God moral, scientific, or something completely different?
First - YOUR statement is incorrect - it should read - Not believing in A GOD - since it implies that one is correct - which cannot be determined since the existence of gods cannot be determined
Since this is the xtian group - I would say - read the bible - from beginning to end - compare the bible statements to reality - check the contradiction with itself and the absolute immoral and unethical acts the god did in the bible.
The claim that morality and ethics came from the bible is nonsense - the bible is a horrendous document that should be kept away from children.
So - why would a god make a law - that a woman who is raped - must marry her rapist?
Why would a god make a law - that a child who disobeys should be stoned to death?
Why did the god - knowing that children and babies are not of the age of responsibilty represent a large amount of the then popoulation (THe average male lived less than 30 years in ancient times) - MURDER all of these children. And it is MURDER - nothing less. To claim a direct live to heaven denies the idea of freedom of choice
How can freedom of choice exist in a world where everything that happens - and is going to happen is already known - so - in fact when humans - who are finite - make a decision - the ONLY thing they can do regardless of the options - it what the god already knows. They do not have the freedom to change their minds and do the opposite - because that would make the god NOT KNOWING. And of course - the god is limited to what it knows as well - so it cannot change its mind.
In law - there is a principle called Depraved Indifference - in which a person who knows that someone is going to do something very bad - is actually abetting the person by keeping it secret. The person who knows must take steps to prevent or tell the situation. If the god is ALL KNOWING - it knew about the Holocaust - and let it happen - it knew about Ethnic cleansing - and let it happen - It knew about witch trials - and let them burn at the stake.
The problem is - once you have actually READ THE BIBLE - if YOu can still believe that this god represents the highest morality and ethics - YOU are stupid. You may as well have stood by and encouraged Adolph Hitler