(April 28, 2010 at 4:13 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: The difference between fatalism and determinism is that determinism simply means there is one determined future,Which is different from fate?
Quote:it doesn't mean that we know this future and therefore can't speak of possible futures (since we don't know WHAT is the actual determined future).Fate doesn't presume to know what is in store for us, though it is often interpreted to allow for prophesy (Which determinism also allows for if it really is correct, though usually implies scientific prediction or the like rather than mysticism).
Quote:Fatalism implies that it's futile to even consider possibilites, which is what you seemed to suggest.It is only futile to consider possibilities if you already know what's going to happen Even then, it can be fun to do so, and therefore not really futile in its fullest sense
Quote:Possibility still exists with determinism, in the sense we don't know the future so we talk of possibilities.
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Possibility under the sense that it is difficult to know the future (though arguably less so the more sophisticated science we achieve) applies equally to both fate and determinism (really... they are synonyms so it is weird sounding to say it as if it is different).
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day