RE: Rape
May 25, 2014 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2014 at 12:01 pm by BlackMason.)
(May 25, 2014 at 7:37 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: No, no, no! Asking someone to back up their assertion with evidence is the only way we discuss things... This is just a stupid attempt to avoid the burden of proof.
The burden of proof is on the person that makes a claim. I wasn't denying that. I'm the last person you need to tell that. I feel that you guys on here are micro analysing the things I say and you miss the bigger picture. I think some of you guys are excessively belligerent. Perhaps it's the bad taste I left in your mouths hey, Bad Wolf? You ignored the fact that setting unassailable threshholds of proof can impede a conversation. I wasn't trying to avoid the burden of proof. I was just voicing out a reasonable opinion.
(May 25, 2014 at 7:37 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: It doesn't apply to everything like throwaway statements like 'I have a dog' but when you assert something relevant to the topic, and someone disagrees with you, you are obliged to reveal how you know this.
Oh, but it does. The evidence must match the level of the claim. A low magnitude claim would require a low form of evidence. You claim to have 5 bucks in your pocket. I would most likely take you at your word. If you claimed to have 10 grand in your pocket, not only would it not be enough for me to see you whip out a bundle of notes, I'd even ask to count it! High level claim high standard of proof. Now you see the obvious issue here? It's subjective. The person requiring the other party to discharge the BOP has a subjective threshhold. It's impossible to standardise them. So what do you do when a party requires a standard too high? That's the crux of what I was writing about. But your head was too far up your ass to see it.
Back to the burden of proof:
Quote: Several myths exist about sexual assault. These myths often shift responsibility and blame from the assailant to the victim. Understanding the myths surrounding sexual assault may help you in your recovery. What happened to you was a crime. You are not to blame for the assailant’s behavior.http:// m.sapac.umich.edu/article/52
Myth: Rape is caused by the perpetrator’s uncontrollable sexual urge.
Fact: Rape is an act of power and control, not sex.
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