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RE: New Athiest Needs Help

June 4, 2014 at 10:00 pm

(June 4, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Lek Wrote:
(June 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Irrational Wrote: Why should there be a God beyond the edge of the universe? And why should the ultimate universe have an edge to it?

If the universe has no edge or end to it, then it shares another attribute with God. It's infinite. Sounds a bit supernatural to me.

Supernatural is a very distracting word. So what if you see it as "supernatural"? The point is we have no reason to believe something as grand and mystifying as the universe has to be caused. Whatever properties apply to us do not have to apply to the universe.

With that said, why should there be a God anywhere if the universe could have possibly been uncaused?

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New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm

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RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 4:48 pm

RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm

RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mystical - June 4, 2014 at 12:45 am

RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 4, 2014 at 1:37 am

RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 1:48 am

RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 1:51 am

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RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 2:35 am

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RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 7:50 pm

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RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:32 am

RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:36 am

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