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New Athiest Needs Help
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
(June 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Are you reading a different definition of "Infinite chain of events" than everyone else?

No think about it. Each part of the infinite chain requires a cause. Within the infinite chain, you will have infinite chains that have infinite chains that are the cause of other infinite chains. Still all those infinite chains still require a cause.

It can be said a chain of effects is an effect. Therefore an infinite chain of effects is also an effect. Therefore it would require a cause as well.

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(June 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think it can be argued such knowledge ought to come from God, so us having that very knowledge would be a proof of God.

How so?

There is no way to know it otherwise. It would at best a good guess based on what we observed so far. But to know for certain that things can't just pop out of nothing as ontological fact of reality, such that, if you saw something appear in the sky and fall down, you would not assume nothing caused it to come into being but in fact know for certain it has a cause, then it requires to be given that in an absolute way.
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New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 8, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Cato - May 29, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - May 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mystical - June 4, 2014 at 12:45 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 4, 2014 at 1:37 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 1:48 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 1:54 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 2:10 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 2:12 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 2:35 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 8, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:08 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:12 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 4:19 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Jenny A - June 15, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:36 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:54 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 5:00 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 5:04 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 5:13 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brakeman - June 15, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThomM - June 15, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Thumpalumpacus - June 15, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ravenshire - June 16, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Crossless1 - May 29, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mister Agenda - May 29, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Jackalope - June 4, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Faith No More - May 29, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThePinsir - May 29, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by KichigaiNeko - May 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brakeman - May 29, 2014 at 8:52 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - May 29, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 29, 2014 at 10:44 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brakeman - June 1, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 8, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mudhammam - June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 9, 2014 at 1:41 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mudhammam - June 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Thumpalumpacus - June 11, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by RobbyPants - May 30, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by CherishSin - May 30, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by RobbyPants - May 30, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThomM - June 1, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 1, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 2, 2014 at 11:51 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 3, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 12:23 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 12:27 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 10:22 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 5, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 6, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 6, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Faith No More - June 4, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - June 4, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThomM - June 6, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 7, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 3, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ravenshire - June 15, 2014 at 8:11 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 4, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by MysticKnight - June 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by MysticKnight - June 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 6, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 7, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brian37 - June 7, 2014 at 12:54 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 7, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ska88 - June 8, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 8, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 11, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 14, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mr Greene - June 8, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 9, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mr Greene - June 9, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Jenny A - June 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mystical - June 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 7:18 pm

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