Bible prophecies

[Jenny A]

Nope. I'm saying that the generation Jesus was speaking to is not the generation He was speaking of. To fit your analogy to your argument, the crowd He'd be speaking to would be reflected by the content of the speech. In this case the content is defined as the characteristics of the fish He was describing (speckled green). So according to your argument the crowd would all have to be fish, and speckled green. To fit my argument He'd be speaking to a crowd about a fish and the crowd would not be reflected by the content of the speech (they wouldn't be fish, or speckled green). Your analogy actually supports my argument.

Furthermore, it happens all the time in normal conversation that the person we are speaking to is not the person we are speaking about.

Yes, if you actually read, and pay attention to the New Testament, the only conclusion is that Jesus and Paul both expected the second coming within the life times of the people they were talking to. Those people have been dead for almost 2000 years. Jesus and Paul were wrong. Game over.

Ok, I'm not going to bother with the fact that you completely missed the point or that your response is an apologist's attempt at misdirection. Instead I'll go with what your Bible says and see where we get.

Matthew 16:27, 28
“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels,
and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there
are some of those who are standing here who will not taste deathuntil they see
the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“

Matthew 24:32-34
[i]Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become
tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too,
when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door.
Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ [/i]

Mark 13:29-30
Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near,
right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place…“

Hebrews 1:1-2
“Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers
by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son…”

1 Corinthians 10:11
“Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written
down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come.”

1 John 2:18
“Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming,
so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour.”

Revelation 22:6,7,10,12,20
“And he said to me, “These words are faithful and true”; and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent His angel to show to His bond-servants the things which must soon take place. “And behold, I am coming quickly. Blessed is he who heeds the words of the prophecy of this book.” And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.“”…


Notice that Jesus didn’t say “that generation” – which would be the normal way of referring to a future generation. He said “this generation”.
Jesus said that some of his listeners (and the high priest at his trial) would still be alive to see his return to Earth.

So tell me you filthy apologist, what evidence do you have that contradicts your own Bible?

Because right now this is all you've got ...



Now bring some evidence for you claims or shut the fuck up because your Bible doesn't support your unsubstantiated rationalizations simply because you say it does. Rather the polar opposite.

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Because when people say "this generation" they mean their own generation or at the very most the people living at the time "this generation" is said.

I was having a conversation with a historian. He said to me: "In the Late Middle Ages (1340–1400) Europe experienced the most deadly disease outbreak in history when the Black Death, the infamous pandemic of bubonic plague, hit in 1347, killing a third of the human population. It is believed that this generation subsequently became more violent as the mass mortality rate cheapened life and thus increased warfare, crime, popular revolt, waves of flagellants, and persecution." (this is a fictional conversation used as an illustration, facts taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_pl...t_outbreak)

Is the historian speaking of his generation as the one that experienced the Black death?

Obviously not as a historian he was talking about the generation living during the plague. But Jesus was talking in the present tense to the people right there in front of him. Jesus was referring to this generation standing before him, not some future generation. What you are saying is disingenuous. It's like Clinton and the definition of "is". Any ordinary reading of the Bible leads to the conclusion that Jesus meant his own generation. Everything else is a weird stretch.