(June 22, 2014 at 11:54 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I speak of this generation and our generation pretty indiscriminately.
When I say "this" (or any other pronoun) you should look to see what the antecedent noun is. There is no other antecedent but the people listening too him. So they are who he meant.
Good point, we should look to the antecedent noun. And the antecedent noun is the generation that witnesses 'these things'.
(June 22, 2014 at 11:54 pm)Jenny A Wrote: If you doubt it look at some other verses:No I am not going to argue that when Jesus says that 'some standing here will not taste death untill they see the kingdom' that he was speaking both to and of some of the people standing there. This is clear.
Quote:Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.Matthew 16:28
Quote:And He said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power.Mark 9:1
Quote:But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God.Luke 9:27
Or are you going to argue "some" meant some other people somewhere else?
Why is your theology (understanding of the scripture) that Matthew 24:34/Mark 13:30/Luke 21:32 = Matthew 16:28/Mark 9:1/Luke 8:27
(June 23, 2014 at 2:30 am)Irrational Wrote: orangebox21, "this generation", unless context suggests otherwise (which it doesn't), means the generation at the time he spoke.Read Mathew 24:29-34 straight through. The context is an answer to a question about future events. So any generation existing within these future events would be within the context. The generation is qualified by 'these things/these events.'
(June 23, 2014 at 2:30 am)Irrational Wrote: Yes, it's a failed prophecy because the whole of that generation perished without all those things he mentioned ever happening. Contrary to what he predicted.No, He predicted that the generation that witnessed 'these things' would not perish until all 'these things' are fulfilled. A generation would have to both witness 'these things' and perish in order for it to be a failed prophecy. The generation He was speaking to did not witness the 'these things' and did perish. We are speaking of a conjunction not a disjunction.
(June 23, 2014 at 2:30 am)Irrational Wrote: In answer to your question at the end of your last response, Jesus said that some in those days would not taste death. This, to me, implies that he thought there would be no more death (for his followers at least) when the kingdom of God came.No He said they would 'not taste death until they saw the kingdom'. This is much different than saying 'once the kingdom comes you will not taste death.'
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?