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Which was first: Atheism or Religion?

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RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion?

June 27, 2014 at 8:53 am (This post was last modified: June 27, 2014 at 8:59 am by fr0d0.)

(June 27, 2014 at 8:45 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(June 27, 2014 at 8:19 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm not confused about what's allegorical/ symbolic/ metaphorical as you say you are, so I guess that's how I can know where you can't.
You're not confused? Or are you certain of your classification of those parts of the text?

Yes I'm certain about the classification. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

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empirical
ɛmˈpɪrɪk(ə)l,ɪm-/Submit
adjective
based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.
"they provided considerable empirical evidence to support their argument"

I use the term from Dawkins use regarding this subject. I guess you're saying that he got it wrong.

Verifiable : sure. Every Christian verifies the experience of the rest. Independently verifiable to non believers : no.

Unless you're taking about something else?

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