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Islam and theocracy
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RE: Islam and theocracy
Power, extremism, un-accountable executive, non-existent legislature.

Long story short, since the advent of secularism in the 17th century in Europe, states in the west have gradually evolved towards liberal democracies and seen the disestablishment of churches and the removal of their influence of the legislature. This all started with the rejection of the he papacy in statecraft by the Northern European states of course but has ultimately resulted in a government being selected by the people of the people (to arguable degrees).

It was a punctured evolutionary process that was rejected else not discovered in regions where Islam has been prevalent for centuries. There are differences in political statecraft and the body politic that, in my opinion, make the two irreconcilable. The ideological notion of the umma makes the notion of state borders blur and the idea of a caliphate more prevalent, which arguably works against any sort of idea a liberal democracy defined by state borders being tangible.

Also, power and natural resources. A lot of central middle eastern and North African states have vast reserves of finite materials that bestow power on the ruling elite. Doesn't make sense to hand it over to someone else when you get a different private jet each month, Apox on any religious teaching that might say you need to distribute your wealth.
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Islam and theocracy - by Dystopia - June 29, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Islam and theocracy - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 3:14 am
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 30, 2014 at 3:16 am
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Marsellus Wallace - June 30, 2014 at 3:23 am
RE: Islam and theocracy - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 3:35 am
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Minimalist - June 30, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: Islam and theocracy - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Anomalocaris - June 30, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 2:26 pm
RE: Islam and theocracy - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: Islam and theocracy - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Islam and theocracy - by mralstoner - June 30, 2014 at 11:39 pm

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