(July 4, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Purplundy Wrote: I'm going to make this even simpler. Say that a dad takes a whipping and drags a hundred pounds through the city as public humiliation. Then, he has metal driven through his hands and feet, but isn't afraid that he's going to die and doesn't.
I refuse to drag this out with you; either you explain how the fear of dying is equivalent to losing a limb, or say that you just aren't a fan of the Jesus figure himself and stop trying to downplay what he allegedly did.
I never claimed that "the fear of dying is equivalent to losing a limb."
If you can't see the difference between an actual sacrifice and a fake one, I can't help you. In the original analogy I made, the father is going to die and he knows it. He does it anyway. That is a sacrifice. Knowing that you're going to have a bad weekend and come out the other side in a better position and then doing it anyway is not the same thing.
Consider this:
Would you take a bullet (dead) for a child you didn't know?
Would you take a bullet (severely injured) for a child you didn't know?
Would you take a beating for a child you didn't know?
Would you take a major inconvenience for a child you didn't know?
Would you take a minor inconvenience for a child you didn't know?
These all involve a sacrifice of some kind, but add a reward to them and and the sacrifice is diminished. If the reward is great enough, only the first remains a sacrifice because you can't collect the reward. Jeebus was (allegedly) made co-ruler of the entire universe. That's one hell of a reward.
So yeah, jeebus had a bad weekend for your sins. Good on him, I guess.
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