(July 5, 2014 at 2:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Don't wee see the majority of catholics moving away from the "traditional position" as expressed by the only authority in the matter Il papa? Hell, then man in the hat is moving away from the traditional position. Perhaps, a bit like american politics, the base is moving away (in one direction) from earlier definitions in such a way as to necessitate a redefining of the terms - as they apply to catholicism?
I give "old school hardliners" massive shit on these forums -in part because- I know that their own fellows cringe when they speak.
Whatever the Pope says would be the traditional position, I think.
I'm noticing you're trying to get me into an argument on semantics whether here or in another thread. I don't see the point. Do you?