(July 18, 2014 at 12:13 pm)alpha male Wrote:(July 18, 2014 at 12:18 am)Jenny A Wrote: The gospels are far from uniform. They are contradictory in places and the each tell of a rather different Jesus. The synoptic gospels share a similar story, but the details change as Jesus becomes less man-like and more god like:If you start reading a little earlier, you'll see that he is expecting salvation:
This depiction of Jesus is of a man in the desolation of despair. He is not expecting salvation.
Mark 14
24 And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new[c] covenant, which is shed for many. 25 Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”
28 “But after I have been raised, I will go before you to Galilee.”
The problem for me is that the supposed statements on the cross (Supposed because I do not accept that the christ is more than a myth)
Do not indicate an ALL knowing god - which is ONE claim of the Xtians.
He is not supposed to be the "son" of god - but actually he IS the god.
And why would he question being forsaken by his father - he is supposed to be the same person. The trinity is obvious nonsense.
And - an all knowing god would have know if he was forsaken or not - in fact nothing that happened should have been a surprise to him - if he were real - and as claimed.
IT is possible to quote snippets out of context to support the xtian claim - just as it is possible to support the atheist claims by quoting the bible as well.
Example - if the christ was well known - spoke to multitudes - and was even known to high officials - why did they need one of the apostles to identify him - it should have been obvious - and known before hand.
Sorry - It is clear that these stories are fabricated and go not agree
