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Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
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RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
(July 19, 2014 at 9:28 pm)mralstoner Wrote:
(July 19, 2014 at 7:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And the hadiths about the world being filled with injustice and oppression before Imam Mahdi rule is in Sunni hadiths. There is no difference with regards to this in either Sunni or Shia hadiths.
Another misleading lullaby to send us all to sleep.
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

Belief in the Mahdi is more prevalent in Shi'ite Islam...

Influence and consequences

Contrasting to Sunnism, where certainty in the Mahdi, although it existed, never developed into a vital article of the faith, in Shiʿism overall, and Twelver Imamism specifically, it is a constitutive doctrine of Shiite spiritual dogma, its dualist image of the world and more exactly his return marks the commencement of the “place of return” or the henceforth...

In Shia Islam "the Mahdi symbol has developed into a powerful and central religious idea." Twelver Shi`i Muslims believe that the Mahdi is the son of Narjis, and is the Twelfth Imam, who was born in 869 and was hidden by God at the age of five (874). He is still alive but has been in occultation, "awaiting the time that God has decreed for his return," When it comes he promised that no one who wanted happiness would be denied and no one who had believed will be left behind.

Portents

According to Moojan Momen, among the most commonly reported signs that presage the advent of the Mahdi in Shia Islam are the following:

* The vast majority of people who profess to be Muslim will be so only in name despite their practice of Islamic rites and it will be they who make war with the Mahdi.

* Before his coming will come the red death and the white death, killing two thirds of the world's population. The red death signifies violence and the white death is plague. One third of the world's population will die from the red death and the other third from the white death. Several figures will appear: the one-eyed Antichrist (Masih ad-Dajjal), the Al-Harth, Al-Mansur, Shuaib bin Saleh and the Sufyani.

* There will be a great conflict in the land of Syria, until it is destroyed.

* Death and fear will afflict the people of Baghdad and `Iraq. A fire will appear in the sky and a redness will cover them.
And you want to trust these lunatics with nuclear weapons?

I've been Shia for most of my life. The white death and red death is one hadith. One and it's not even authentic.

There is all sorts of signs but none of them are definitely known or doctrinal.

The Shias don't advocate in making the world a worse place. They believe in trying it make the best possible place as the reason for the the non-appearance of the Imam is due to the world not being ready.

It's as important belief for Sunnis to believe in Imam Mahdi as it is for Shias, because it's mutuwatir in both sources. Both have narrated with numerous chains and both believe in it.

Talking about whether it is an article of faith or not is a matter of semantics, as Sunni scholars have made it clear one cannot deny the Mahdi and rely on hadiths at the same time as that would be inconsistent.
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Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by mralstoner - July 17, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by Cato - July 17, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by Afifa Qua - October 3, 2014 at 3:39 am
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by Violet - July 19, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by ShaMan - July 18, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by MysticKnight - July 19, 2014 at 9:51 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by Chas - October 3, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by DramaQueen - October 3, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by Chas - October 3, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS - by DramaQueen - October 3, 2014 at 3:18 pm

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