If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.)

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If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.)

Whateverist

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RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.)

July 24, 2014 at 12:45 pm

(July 24, 2014 at 12:44 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(July 24, 2014 at 12:29 pm)whateverist Wrote: The idea expressed by Christian apologists that morality only makes sense if you can ground it in an objective source ...

God is not an objective source, by definition.

"Objective", by definition, means independent of any being's opinions or judgments. This remains the definition no matter how powerful, wise or benevolent the said being might be.

That's just the tip of the iceberg of problems with this line of thinking.

Hadn't thought about it that way. Excellent point.

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If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 24, 2014 at 12:29 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by DeistPaladin - July 24, 2014 at 12:44 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 24, 2014 at 12:45 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Dystopia - July 24, 2014 at 1:23 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by DeistPaladin - July 24, 2014 at 6:58 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 24, 2014 at 6:17 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 24, 2014 at 6:52 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 24, 2014 at 8:19 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 25, 2014 at 12:59 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by ignoramus - July 24, 2014 at 11:00 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 25, 2014 at 12:47 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by ignoramus - July 25, 2014 at 1:06 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 25, 2014 at 9:12 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 25, 2014 at 9:18 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 26, 2014 at 8:49 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 27, 2014 at 1:08 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 3:03 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Neo-Scholastic - July 31, 2014 at 11:52 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2014 at 12:51 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by ignoramus - July 26, 2014 at 8:10 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by MysticKnight - July 26, 2014 at 8:43 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 27, 2014 at 9:18 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 10:37 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 27, 2014 at 5:04 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 7:39 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - July 27, 2014 at 5:40 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 7:45 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 27, 2014 at 10:59 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 11:05 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 27, 2014 at 11:14 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 28, 2014 at 12:08 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - July 28, 2014 at 11:05 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 28, 2014 at 6:29 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - July 30, 2014 at 11:54 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 30, 2014 at 12:32 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - July 30, 2014 at 4:49 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2014 at 7:44 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2014 at 7:57 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 10:48 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2014 at 11:05 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 28, 2014 at 3:21 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 28, 2014 at 9:37 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 28, 2014 at 10:08 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 28, 2014 at 3:25 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - July 28, 2014 at 4:01 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 28, 2014 at 6:08 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 28, 2014 at 6:38 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 29, 2014 at 2:41 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 29, 2014 at 7:49 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 30, 2014 at 2:41 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 30, 2014 at 11:00 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 30, 2014 at 11:12 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 30, 2014 at 11:43 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2014 at 6:58 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2014 at 3:39 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 30, 2014 at 4:46 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 30, 2014 at 5:46 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - July 30, 2014 at 7:12 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - July 30, 2014 at 8:43 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2014 at 11:58 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 1, 2014 at 7:32 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 1, 2014 at 12:03 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2014 at 9:26 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 1, 2014 at 10:52 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by archangle - August 1, 2014 at 10:18 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 1, 2014 at 11:53 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by archangle - August 1, 2014 at 3:20 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 1, 2014 at 3:45 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2014 at 3:35 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 1, 2014 at 7:15 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - August 2, 2014 at 1:54 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 2, 2014 at 8:24 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - August 3, 2014 at 9:41 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 3, 2014 at 12:13 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - August 3, 2014 at 12:29 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 3, 2014 at 2:38 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 3, 2014 at 3:51 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 3, 2014 at 10:51 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 4, 2014 at 8:11 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Angrboda - August 10, 2014 at 2:27 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 11, 2014 at 12:29 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2014 at 8:53 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 1, 2014 at 11:25 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Neo-Scholastic - August 2, 2014 at 1:00 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2014 at 2:43 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 2, 2014 at 2:19 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by Whateverist - August 3, 2014 at 12:04 pm

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2014 at 1:56 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 11, 2014 at 2:10 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2014 at 2:13 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 11, 2014 at 2:46 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2014 at 2:57 am

RE: If beauty doesn't require God, why should morality? (Bite me Dr. Craig.) - by bennyboy - August 11, 2014 at 3:21 am

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