(July 24, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Jenny A Wrote: That any feeling being, would cry out when cruxified seems reasonable. "Arrrrg!" seems most appropriate. But "why hast thou forsaken me," does not sound reasonable on the part of a man/god who knows and I mean really knows he's heaven bound.Why not? You act as if there should be no suffering if one is convinced that the suffering will end. That Jesus suffered from the lack of fellowship with the Father while on the cross doesn't indicate that he thought there would never be fellowship again. Even with that knowledge, it still hurt at the time. Have you never expressed pain even though you knew the pain was temporary? Did that knowledge nullify the pain?
Quote:Interestingly, a literal translation is closer to "why have you left be behind?" than it is to "why hast thou forsaken me?" That's a little odd, don't you think?Young's Literal translates it 'My God, my God, why didst Thou forsake me?'
Also note that Jesus is quoting Psalm 22:1. That Psalm discusses his anguish, yet in verse 21 says that God answers him. Seems doubtful he would quote that psalm if he actually despaired of ever getting an answer.
Quote:Paul's view of Jesus, doesn't quite fit any of the gospels. If he was born the son of god and divine, why would he cry out "why hast thou forsaken me" let alone "why hast thou left me behind." But if he was god made flesh with all of the sensations of flesh, how could he not cry out or merely say, "it is finished?"Paul was endorsed by the apostles, as recorded by one of the gospel authors, so I have to disagree that his view of Jesus doesn't fit with the gospels.
