Is Evolution a science or a faith?

[Harris]

I don't think it is a good mental health practice to fantasize that you know the infinite thoughts of imaginary entities.― Stefan Molyneux

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. --Richard Dawkins

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Einstein, Albert (1930). "Religion and Science" New York Times Magazine (Nov. 9): 1-4.

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(Today 05:05)alexwenzel Wrote: Will you please give me a couple of facts?
(7th July 2014 02:32)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Wow. Not reading all that text but to answer your question, the theory of evolution is a body of scientific facts, not faith.

Facts.

Another junk yard where I have not found any evidence for dog becoming mule through the process of natural selection and evolution. I have gone through many similar junk yards but have not found a single solid scientific fact for ape becoming human.

“Evolution can turn dinosaurs into birds, apes into humans, and amphibious mammals into whales.”
Live science
http://www.livescience.com/474-controver...works.html

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Quote:All available evidence supports the central conclusions of evolutionary theory, that life on Earth has evolved and that species share common ancestors. Biologists are not arguing about these conclusions.

Yes. But this is too complex for creatards and for them we have the Buy Bull.

Because reading one book is a lot easier then reading a lot of hard ones

I presume you have read 100s of hard books. However, for some unknown reason, it seems you are not willing to give few hard quotes from those hard books to support your case.

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(Today 06:09)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Because reading one book is a lot easier then reading a lot of hard ones

Which is strange, because the bible is technically multiple books, and given the number of contradictions and apparently constant switches between literal and figurative language, it'd seem like a pretty hard series of books to get through too.

Although as being a Muslim I believe in Bible (the bible that was revealed over Jesus) to be a Holy Scripture, I ask you to read Quran and compare it with other scriptures.

But then, we are assuming that they've even read the bible, here. Instead of, say, imposing their own meaning upon certain select passages and ignoring the rest...

Please put forward some selective passages from Quran that you think I am ignoring.

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(10th July 2014 22:38)pocaracas Wrote: Today, I got a link to a playlist of TED talks, the 20 most viewed, or something like that.
In one of them, there was a guy talking about motivating people to buy a product from some company and he outlined what he called the "golden circle": a 3 concentric circles bulls-eye.
At the center, he put "why", in the middle he put "what" and at the outermost layer, he put "how".
And he said that most companies work from the outside inwards.
But the truly great companies work from the inside out.

That's Simon Sinek.
(10th July 2014 22:38)pocaracas Wrote: So, back to these creatards. If we want to captivate them, we have to make them understand "why" we think the way we think, "why" evolution is correct... only then can we say what evolution is and how it works.
"why", the motivation that makes everything else fall in place.

We've been going at this all wrong, probably due to the creatards' fault always starting the conversation on some "conceived" faults of evolution... we keep showing them "how" evolution works and a bit of "what" it is..... we never show them "why". Our inner reason to accept it.

So, "why" is evolution right? "why" should I consider evolution? (Remember, this is not a "how" nor "what" question!)

I'll give it a shot: Given mutations, millions of years and billions and billions of creatures, you'd need a mechanism that prevents evolution from happening. Like a reset-button.

If the mutations themselves were truly random—that is, if they were neither directed by an intelligence nor influenced by the functional needs of the organism (as Neo-Darwinism stipulates) then the probability of the mutation and selection mechanism ever producing a new gene or protein could well be vanishingly small. Why? The mutations would have to generate, or “search” by trial and error, an enormous number of possibilities—far more than were realistic in the time available to the evolutionary process.