RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2014 at 6:40 pm by Jenny A.)
(July 26, 2014 at 11:35 am)Harris Wrote:(July 12, 2014 at 12:57 am)Jenny A Wrote: I don't think it is a good mental health practice to fantasize that you know the infinite thoughts of imaginary entities.― Stefan Molyneux
We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. --Richard Dawkins
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Einstein, Albert (1930). "Religion and Science" New York Times Magazine (Nov. 9): 1-4.
You're refuting my signature quotes? Really? Really?
I don't know what you think whether Einstein believed in god has to do with whether it's a good idea to think you know god's thoughts or whether you believe in all the possible gods, but Einstein did not believe in god, at least not in the way you are suggesting. Certainly whether he did has nothing to with evolution or whether atheism is a faith.
But you are so wildly mistaken about what Einstein believed that I find it necessary to quote him:
Quote:It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.Albert Einstein Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930 ---same article as yours.
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Quote:Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being.Albert Einstein, 1936, responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray; quoted in: Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffmann
Quote:During the youthful period of mankind's spiritual evolution, human fantasy created gods in man's own image who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate influence, the phenomenal world.Albert Einstein, quoted in: 2000 Years of Disbelief, James Haught
He was a rather more complex thinker than you are. He did not go looking for god as an expatiation. He found god in the awe of what he discovered, not by miracle or personal revelation.
Quote: From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.Albert Einstein
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.