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Is Evolution a science or a faith?
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(July 28, 2014 at 1:53 am)Harris Wrote:
(July 26, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Tobie Wrote: Faith, in religious context, is defined as a strong belief in the tenets of a religion based on spiritual conviction rather than evidence. Atheists haven't redefined it as that, that is what the word has always meant.

No, New Atheism redefines FAITH as a property of religion only. Whereas our minds depend on FAITH of almost anything that we think can provide comfort to us in any sense. Science depends on faith, without FAITH, our minds reject any evidence. The problem with religion is that on its face value, it seemingly dictates obligations over comfort and as we do not like discomfort, we reject all or any evidence without even giving a second thought to it.

Faith is simply believing without evidence. Some faith is comfortable, some not. Faith in hell is uncomfortable. Faith in heaven is comfortable. But there isn't any evidence of either.

Knowledge is belief based upon evidence. My lack of belief in god is based on a lack of evidence and an unwillingness (or really inability) to believe without evidence. Should evidence be provided, I'll believe in god, but it won't be faith, it will be knowledge.

My belief in scientifically demonstrated ideas and phenomena is based on evidence. Unlike faith it's subject to change in the face of contrary evidence.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 6, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Minimalist - July 6, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jenny A - July 6, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Dystopia - July 7, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by LostLocke - July 7, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 26, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - July 28, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by paulpablo - July 6, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - July 6, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mudhammam - July 6, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by alexwenzel - July 12, 2014 at 1:05 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 12, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 6, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Ryantology - July 6, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by CapnAwesome - July 6, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jackalope - July 6, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by vorlon13 - July 6, 2014 at 11:34 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - July 7, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Aroura - July 7, 2014 at 3:07 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cato - July 7, 2014 at 5:16 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Angrboda - July 7, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 7, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Ryantology - July 7, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 8, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 3, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 7, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by vorlon13 - July 8, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ManMachine - July 8, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 26, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by FreeTony - July 8, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - July 28, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 8, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 8, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 8, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - July 8, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - July 26, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 27, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jackalope - July 9, 2014 at 12:59 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by LastPoet - July 9, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - July 9, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jackalope - July 9, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - July 10, 2014 at 2:17 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Writer - July 10, 2014 at 2:30 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Losty - July 10, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 10, 2014 at 3:30 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - July 10, 2014 at 4:00 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:29 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by No_God - July 10, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - July 10, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 10, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bibliofagus - July 12, 2014 at 3:27 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 27, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jenny A - July 12, 2014 at 12:57 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 26, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jenny A - July 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Minimalist - July 12, 2014 at 2:07 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 12, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - July 12, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - July 12, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jenny A - July 12, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by SteelCurtain - July 26, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by SteelCurtain - July 26, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Tobie - July 26, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 26, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 12:30 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 26, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 12:58 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 1:09 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Tobie - July 26, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Jenny A - July 28, 2014 at 2:11 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - July 26, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 27, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - July 28, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - July 28, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 26, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 27, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 12:46 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 11:42 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - July 26, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - July 28, 2014 at 12:14 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mr.wizard - July 28, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - July 28, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - July 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - July 26, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 27, 2014 at 3:47 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 2:40 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 28, 2014 at 4:44 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by FreeTony - July 27, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - July 27, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 27, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - July 27, 2014 at 5:36 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 27, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - July 27, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 27, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 6:55 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by StuW - July 28, 2014 at 7:30 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bibliofagus - July 28, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 28, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Angrboda - July 28, 2014 at 12:10 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 28, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 28, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bibliofagus - July 29, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Minimalist - July 27, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 3:43 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - July 27, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 4:12 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Minimalist - July 27, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - July 27, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - July 27, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - July 27, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - July 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - July 28, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - July 27, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 27, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mr.wizard - July 27, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 7:30 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mr.wizard - July 28, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - July 28, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - July 28, 2014 at 8:39 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - July 28, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by FreeTony - July 28, 2014 at 8:37 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by FreeTony - July 28, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Natachan - July 28, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by paulpablo - July 28, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by downbeatplumb - July 28, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 28, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by downbeatplumb - July 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ManMachine - July 28, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Brian37 - July 29, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - July 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - July 29, 2014 at 11:26 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Losty - July 30, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cato - August 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - August 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - August 2, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mr.wizard - August 3, 2014 at 9:27 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by archangle - August 2, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Duke Guilmon - August 2, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 2, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by archangle - August 2, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Losty - August 2, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by coldwx - August 2, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 2, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 2, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Polaris - August 2, 2014 at 8:02 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 2, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - August 3, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - August 3, 2014 at 7:28 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by archangle - August 3, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 3, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2014 at 12:10 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - August 3, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - August 3, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - August 4, 2014 at 12:21 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 4, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - August 4, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - August 4, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 4, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - August 5, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mister Agenda - August 6, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by popeyespappy - August 13, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bibliofagus - August 14, 2014 at 4:08 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by StuW - August 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Mr.wizard - August 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Ryantology - August 3, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Dystopia - August 3, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Duke Guilmon - August 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Losty - August 3, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Duke Guilmon - August 4, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Sejanus - August 3, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2014 at 11:38 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by ignoramus - August 3, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - August 4, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - August 4, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - August 4, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 4, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Tonus - August 4, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 4, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Oldm8 - August 4, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Brian37 - August 6, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Harris - August 17, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by pocaracas - August 17, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Esquilax - August 18, 2014 at 2:21 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by popeyespappy - August 14, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Eel_LahjicK - August 14, 2014 at 1:31 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Whateverist - August 14, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Cyberman - August 14, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Tonus - August 14, 2014 at 5:52 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by bennyboy - August 14, 2014 at 8:27 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by OfficerVajardian - August 14, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Bad Wolf - August 17, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith? - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2014 at 4:23 pm

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