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God's Nature and character
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RE: God's Nature and character
(July 31, 2014 at 10:05 am)jesus_wept Wrote:
(July 31, 2014 at 9:44 am)alpha male Wrote: The children in the passages under discussion were not killed by parents thinking they were doing the children a favor. If you modify the situation, I may need to modify my position as well. How about, all children go to heaven unless killed by someone believing it will send them to heaven, in which case god decides as he sees fit.

I was being flippant when I asked whether the reason it's not spelt out clearer is to stop Christians doing their children a favour but I think the point about parents is a bit of a red herring because, even if I give you that, we're still left in the awful position that children being killed is something to rejoice about. So, if you dont mind, I shall modify my original question to suit your backpedal.

So killing children is actually doing them a favour, as long as the person murdering them doesn't believe it will send them to heaven, because they'll go to heaven and avoid any chance of going to hell?

Also, what does your god do with the children he's decided not to send to heaven because their parents killed them believing they'd go to heaven? This seems awfully close to punishing the child for the crimes of their parents and I do hope I dont need to point out how abhorrent this is.
Another alternative is that, being omniscient, God could know what that child would have grown up to be if his parents hadn't killed him, and treat him accordingly. Note that that alternative is not specific to this situation. I could have used this defense against the initial charge. But, I do think an age of accountability doctrine can be derived from the Bible and does generally apply.
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God's Nature and character - by Simon Moon - July 30, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by ShaMan - July 30, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Mudhammam - July 30, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 30, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Simon Moon - July 30, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 30, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by ShaMan - July 30, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 30, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Zen Badger - July 31, 2014 at 7:47 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Welsh cake - July 30, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Mudhammam - July 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by ignoramus - July 31, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Minimalist - July 31, 2014 at 1:38 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by CindysRain - July 31, 2014 at 2:31 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 7:26 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 7:38 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 7:44 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:12 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by CindysRain - July 31, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Drich - July 31, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 8:13 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 8:30 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:35 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:39 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by SteveII - July 31, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Zen Badger - July 31, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:44 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:47 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 9:55 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Dystopia - July 31, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Dystopia - July 31, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Raven - July 31, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Raven - July 31, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Welsh cake - July 31, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 2:03 pm

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