Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 22, 2024, 8:38 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
God's Nature and character
#64
RE: God's Nature and character
(July 31, 2014 at 10:11 am)alpha male Wrote:
(July 31, 2014 at 10:05 am)jesus_wept Wrote: I was being flippant when I asked whether the reason it's not spelt out clearer is to stop Christians doing their children a favour but I think the point about parents is a bit of a red herring because, even if I give you that, we're still left in the awful position that children being killed is something to rejoice about. So, if you dont mind, I shall modify my original question to suit your backpedal.

So killing children is actually doing them a favour, as long as the person murdering them doesn't believe it will send them to heaven, because they'll go to heaven and avoid any chance of going to hell?

Also, what does your god do with the children he's decided not to send to heaven because their parents killed them believing they'd go to heaven? This seems awfully close to punishing the child for the crimes of their parents and I do hope I dont need to point out how abhorrent this is.
Another alternative is that, being omniscient, God could know what that child would have grown up to be if his parents hadn't killed him, and treat him accordingly. Note that that alternative is not specific to this situation. I could have used this defense against the initial charge. But, I do think an age of accountability doctrine can be derived from the Bible and does generally apply.

I believe this is called having your cake and eating it too. On the one hand you want a god who decides what's going to happen based on their future actions and on the other you want an age of accountability doctrine too. Why dont you just do the honest thing and say my god can do whatever he wants because he's magic and end the debate?

It would've been nice if you'd answered my modified question btw, instead of carrying on with the red herring about parents killing their children.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
God's Nature and character - by Simon Moon - July 30, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by ShaMan - July 30, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Mudhammam - July 30, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 30, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Simon Moon - July 30, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 30, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by ShaMan - July 30, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 30, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Zen Badger - July 31, 2014 at 7:47 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Welsh cake - July 30, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Mudhammam - July 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by ignoramus - July 31, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Minimalist - July 31, 2014 at 1:38 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by CindysRain - July 31, 2014 at 2:31 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 7:26 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 7:38 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 7:44 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:12 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by CindysRain - July 31, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Drich - July 31, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 8:13 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 8:30 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:35 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:39 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by SteveII - July 31, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Zen Badger - July 31, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:44 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:47 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Baqal - July 31, 2014 at 9:55 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by FatAndFaithless - July 31, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Dystopia - July 31, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Dystopia - July 31, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Raven - July 31, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: God's Nature and character - by Raven - July 31, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by jesus_wept - July 31, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Welsh cake - July 31, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by Losty - July 31, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: God's Nature and character - by John V - July 31, 2014 at 2:03 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  The Devil just needs a character rewrite Nachos_of_Nurgle 16 2020 February 16, 2022 at 12:47 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  the nature of sin Drich 137 23662 August 11, 2020 at 6:51 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  God is god, and we are not god StoryBook 43 13851 January 6, 2014 at 5:47 pm
Last Post: StoryBook
Question Why is the sin nature inherited? Tea Earl Grey Hot 70 25736 September 16, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Last Post: Polaris
  Precision in Nature: Evidence of God or Accidents? Alter2Ego 55 24452 May 14, 2012 at 11:48 am
Last Post: Thor
  God get's angry, Moses changes God's plans of wrath, God regrets "evil" he planned Mystic 9 7184 February 16, 2012 at 8:17 am
Last Post: Strongbad
  What is gods fundamental nature? Captain Scarlet 27 7999 August 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Last Post: fr0d0
  God's character Mr Olefemi 64 13456 August 3, 2010 at 7:12 am
Last Post: tackattack



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)