(June 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm)theophilus Wrote: That is exactly what I said in my post. But it doesn't contradict my statement that this country was founded on the belief that there is a God.
So you take a direct refutation to your argument and still come back with the same response? Freedom to believe whatever the hell you want is important - so much in fact that the founding fathers made it one of their first points in the Constitution. They didn't put forth a freedom of religion, but mandatory belief in God. You have the freedom to believe or not believe whatever you like.
(June 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm)theophilus Wrote: If the government isn't allowed to have a national day of prayer because some of its citizens are atheists, isn't that in effect making atheism an official religion?
No, it's recognizing that a state-led initiative is necessarily promoting a religious practice. This is unconstitutional.
(June 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm)theophilus Wrote: There have been a lot of bad laws connected with marriage but that doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a man and a woman.
...and?
I'm glad you find there to be "bad laws", which also fall under the same category as your initial assertion. I can add or replace some words and still have it valid, depending on the timeframe and societal framework.
1. There have been a lot of bad laws connected with marriage but that doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a white man and a white woman.
2. There have been a lot of bad laws connected with marriage but that doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a financially fit man and a woman's parents.
3. There have been a lot of bad laws connected with marriage but that doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a man and a virgin woman.
A society built upon progression is just that - progressive. We change definitions and traditions, that's how things get done so we can more happily live with one another. Homosexuality didn't just pop up - it was always around. The societies, however, didn't allow for such things to be regarded seriously until recently.
In response to the OP:
Name one rational argument made from a secular standpoint that would explain why prohibition of gay marriage to be legal.
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