What Happens When God is Nature?

[The_Flying_Skeptic]

Believers don't view God as supernatural. God is nature.

...If God is nature, then there is no difference between God creating life, and abiogenesis (which is nature creating life). What is the problem you have with abiogenesis then?

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You know what, Adrian? You've convinced me of something. You're right. If as a theistic evolutionist I can embrace evolution as God's tool, then I can also embrace abiogenesis as God's tool for originating life. I should not be disputing abiogenesis. If abiogenesis happened only once, as scientists have come to believe after centuries of failed experiments, then it was God's tool for creation. What I should really be arguing is that since abiogenesis cannot be replicated, this demonstrates that it happened only once because God allowed it to happen in order to create life.

I would have to do more research, and think about it some more. But what I'm saying is that I am now open to the possibility that abiogenesis may have occurred. And that's thanks to you.

I know the final result is not exactly what you intended, but no doubt you are a smart guy, and I'm not afraid to give someone credit if I feel they bring something new and challenging to the table. Believe me when I say that I consider all the comments that are posted.

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I didn't know whether to post this is the religion forum or here. I copy pasted this post from the Evidence God Exists PART II thread because it highlights a big problem a lot of theists I have met have not realized. I've heard many theists explain that they believe their deity is 'everything' or is 'nature' yet some of these theists have a problem believing that all organisms share a common ancestor or that life originated by natural processes. The problem is that if they describe their god as 'nature' then there should be no problem in accepting that their god works with natural mechanisms.