(June 2, 2010 at 9:31 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(June 2, 2010 at 8:52 am)Caecilian Wrote: Otoh, there are theists like fr0d0 (type-f) who actively reject the idea that 'god' should have explanatory power. Not only does type-f theism not conflict with science, it can't conflict with science, since it doesn't overlap with science in any way.From what I've seen from the fr0d0-type ;-) he does not reject the idea that god should have explanatory power but he purports that god exists and at the same time is unknowable. There is some fundamental reason that we never can find evidence for his existence. The problem with that point of view is that such a god concept does not allow for any god attributes to be known to man. Still you will find him attributing all kind of stuff to his god. The concept is deeply incoherent.
Surely if we can never find evidence for his existence, then it follows that he doesn't have any explanatory power. In fact can't have any explanatory power.
I suspect fr0d0 would say that 'god' gives him a greater understanding of the universe, but that understanding would probably be of a teleological nature, and nothing to do with the sort of causal and statistical explanations that we find in science.
Apologies to fr0d0 if I've mis-represented your views.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
