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(June 2, 2010 at 4:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Rabbit. I do assert that God has no explanatory power. How can I think that nothing of God is knowable when I accept as truth what the bible says about him??
Makes no sense frod. If you assert that your god has no explanatory power, your bible has no explanatory power, iow is meaningless. So is there some typo in the above or what?
Your dearest friend from 26th dimension hell, Purple Rabbit
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(June 5, 2010 at 8:44 am)Caecilian Wrote: Surely if we can never find evidence for his existence, then it follows that he doesn't have any explanatory power. In fact can't have any explanatory power.
Hmmm. There's one rule here: nothing is sure. Maybe our science, intraceable as it is to god, is his explanation for mankind. We definitely need some mystical vapour here.
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(June 5, 2010 at 8:44 am)Caecilian Wrote: I suspect fr0d0 would say that 'god' gives him a greater understanding of the universe, but that understanding would probably be of a teleological nature, and nothing to do with the sort of causal and statistical explanations that we find in science.
Hmmm, yeah...interesting mind read.
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(June 5, 2010 at 8:44 am)Caecilian Wrote: Apologies to fr0d0 if I've mis-represented your views.
Yeah, me too. And we take great care in trying to reconstruct consistency from nothing. However it cannot be excluded completely that some misinterpretation in the near future might have been arisen from some debating mishap in your past.
I've numbered the points for easy reference.
1. Does something have to have explanatory power to be meaningful? I don't really see how that follows.
2. Yeah...If 'god' is uncertain, then anything supervening on a description that includes 'god' is also uncertain. We end up being uncertain about way too much. In some versions ('god is the universe') we end up being uncertain about everything. Not good. Unsure how the mystical vapour would help here- looks like a lost cause to me.
3. Well, it turned out to be a correct guess, anyway.
4. Representing other peoples views is always a tricky business. Especially when you strongly disagree with the views that you're representing.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
