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Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
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RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
(June 11, 2010 at 7:29 am)Rwandrall Wrote:

He didn’t make us as sinners or imperfect. He made us as decision makers in his image. It’s ludicrous to think that God created us in his image and also create us as imperfect or sinners. Your misconception lies in the fact that he created us perfect the way we are and that includes giving us the ability to turn against him and be autonomous and that each individual should be accountable for his/her own actions and decisions.

(June 11, 2010 at 8:43 am)tavarish Wrote:

Or in the context that he is omnipresent and exists outside the rules of the known universe.

(June 11, 2010 at 8:47 am)Welsh cake Wrote:

Perhaps that was poorly worded, thanks! God’s Love is a separate concept to that of the human emotion love was my point. Also that it is an identifier of God’s nature. It’s also axiomatically and unforeseeably unobtainable.
Faith also thrives on a questioning attitude and scrutiny. Honestly I don’t think religions as a whole or blind faith does though. I would also agree that science holds a better explanatory power for material existence than sky daddy does.
tav Wrote:It's a horrible analogy, as electricity is still bound by laws. Just because there's an infinite amount of it doesn't change the fact that it is subject to certain criteria in order to be called electricity. God, on the other hand, is taken by your arguments to be the necessary author of these laws, a prescribing force rather than describing force. This raises the questions we've been asking you all along, and which you dodge continuously. For the sake of argument, I'll assume your version of God is plausible.

I'll make the questions easy and concise so you can respond to them in order.

1. What is your account for why God has a nature?
2. Can God go against that nature?
3. Why is God's will effective rather than ineffective?
4. How can an infinitely powerful being (i.e. the Christian God) have things he cannot do? [/hide]
1- He doesn’t necessarily have to have a nature, but due to his observability in this universe he therefore has some sort of nature that’s observable.
2- I suppose he could… It depends.. Can you be anyone other than you? It would be possible I’m guessing, but holds no weight because any deviation from one’s nature is a temporary and unnatural state.
3- Could you please rephrase I’m not getting it, (Sorry I’m tired)
4- I don’t see anything he can’t do. Some things are outside of his nature to do (like affect free will), but nothing prevents him from doing anything due his omnipresence, omnipotence and omniscience. Basically the only thing that limits God is God.
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RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ? - by tackattack - June 12, 2010 at 1:22 am

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