(June 12, 2010 at 6:09 am)Rwandrall Wrote:Saying we as mankind are sinners does not mean he created us to sin. Because we have the ability to choose that allows us the opportunity to sin. There is no inherited sin from Adam, that's a common misconception. Man's problems ARE the fault of man himself, but not because we were born sinners or deserve anting, but because we sin. God created the opportunity to sin, and yes he saw it coming. Me as a Father can let my child go play out back, knowing full well he has the option to fall, get kidnapped, or whatever. If this cycle went on for eternity and I saw every single possibility play itself out, and that a majority of the time nothing happened to my son, I could then conclude that it's better to let him go outside and risk it to learn something then keep him cooped up. I hope that illustrated the point you're not getting better.
God knowing the outcome has zero bearing on us as a species learning from those outcomes over time, which I believe is the point to learning. If we were all born with God's knowledge and perspective, there would be no learning or growh as a species. God is not ok letting a vast portion "go to hell", he proved it by sacrificing his son for all of us. He can't force you to accept his love though. One more time with this analogy. You can stand out in the rain and wee everyone else being wet and miserable and be wet and miserable yourself, or you can come in out of he rain. He's invited everyone in, but not everyone comes in.
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