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Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
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RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
(June 11, 2010 at 8:43 am)tavarish Wrote: One problem with God is that there is absolutely no consensus on the term. It means different things to different people, which is understandable when you put it into the context that he is only a concept.
(June 12, 2010 at 1:22 am)tackattack Wrote: Or in the context that he is omnipresent and exists outside the rules of the known universe.

That's very incoherent. Is there anything about God's existence that distinguishes him from being non-existent?


tav Wrote:1. What is your account for why God has a nature?
2. Can God go against that nature?
3. Why is God's will effective rather than ineffective?
4. How can an infinitely powerful being (i.e. the Christian God) have things he cannot do?

(June 12, 2010 at 1:22 am)tackattack Wrote: 1- He doesn’t necessarily have to have a nature, but due to his observability in this universe he therefore has some sort of nature that’s observable.
2- I suppose he could… It depends.. Can you be anyone other than you? It would be possible I’m guessing, but holds no weight because any deviation from one’s nature is a temporary and unnatural state.
3- Could you please rephrase I’m not getting it, (Sorry I’m tired)
4- I don’t see anything he can’t do. Some things are outside of his nature to do (like affect free will), but nothing prevents him from doing anything due his omnipresence, omnipotence and omniscience. Basically the only thing that limits God is God.

1. You didn't answer my question. I asked you why God HAS a nature. Why does God have a particular nature instead of no nature or a different nature? And didn't you just demonstrate that you can't measure in any form a way in which you distinguish God as being existent?
2. First, I'm not alleging that I'm the author of my being, or the author of the natural laws I'm bound by. I'm a finite being, which isn't a good analogy. I'm asking if God can do things like lie and create a squared circle, and if not, why not?
3. What constructs have to be in place in order for a being such as God to have an effective will rather than an ineffective will? It is assumed God is the creator, but why is this so?
4. So why is he bound by a nature if there isn't anything he can't do?
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RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ? - by tavarish - June 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm

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