(June 11, 2010 at 4:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:tav Wrote:So can God act against his nature?
Why is anything we work out bound by our logical construct? Answer: because that's what makes sense to us. We can't conclude the illogical, unless that is our intention.
God isn't 'bound' by anything.
(June 12, 2010 at 8:52 pm)tavarish Wrote:Did you see my first reply to you (above)?(June 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm)tavarish Wrote: 1. You didn't answer my question. I asked you why God has a nature, not if he HAS to have a nature. Why does God have a particular nature instead of no nature or a different nature?(June 12, 2010 at 1:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: God's nature is what we try to understand it to be. It's how we label things. Like his signature... it's what, given what we've all worked out from simple deduction, we can expect him to do.
You have still to explain WHY God has a specific nature, which was my question.
God only has a specific nature because we worked it out. If you sat down and worked it out, you would have to reach the same conclusions.
(June 12, 2010 at 8:52 pm)tavarish Wrote:Creation is destructive? I can't see how you could possibly justify that. I'm going to need to to provide a logical example that equates with creation in the sense of God creating the universe.(June 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm)tavarish Wrote: I'm asking if God can do things like lie and create a squared circle, and if not, why not?(June 12, 2010 at 1:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It follows from our logical construct of God. If he did create everything, then he is a positive force. Etc.. God could do whatever the hell God wanted. We could get very theoretical but it doesn't help understand God much.
How would that be a positive force?
(June 12, 2010 at 8:52 pm)tavarish Wrote: And if God could do something else, like act in another fashion, why does he not do it?God isn't a God of chaos. It's part of his nature that WE define. It follows logically when you think about what God is. A God of chaos would be anti God. (I've covered all this before with you so forgive me for not going into detail again)
(June 12, 2010 at 8:52 pm)tavarish Wrote:Not really. Creation is part of the subject, as geometry is to Math.(June 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm)tavarish Wrote: It is assumed God is the creator, but why is this so?(June 12, 2010 at 1:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It fits with the rest of the idea. Theology describes the whole of humanly perceived reality.That doesn't make sense. You essentially said God is assumed to be the creator because it fits with the idea that God is the creator - a tautology.
(June 12, 2010 at 8:52 pm)tavarish Wrote:He didn't 'conform' to anything. This just is him. We worked out what he can be, he didn't. If he did "anything" then he wouldn't be God. We have other names for that.(June 12, 2010 at 1:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: His nature is that he can do anything. His signature is what he's done in our reality.So why has he conformed to a specific nature? What's stopping him from doing "anything"?