RE: Are We Living In God's "Matrix"?
September 12, 2014 at 1:06 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2014 at 1:06 am by sswhateverlove.)
(September 12, 2014 at 12:49 am)bennyboy Wrote: Sure. Intelligent design is an intrinsically religious idea, because by "intelligence," you are talking about a massive creative mind, which is pretty much the definition of God. Hence, I'm sure, your actual use of the word "God" in the title.
By "pushing a religious agenda," I mean that you've gone into many subsections in these forums, and pointed toward ID, framing your arguments in philosophical language, or scientific language, etc. But the common denominator is that all your arguments are either explicitly or implicitly about the idea of ID-- so you aren't so much interested in science, or philosophy, or any of the other content of those subforums, as you are in making sure that everyone here engages with you on the idea of ID, which as I've shown is intrinsically a religious one.
Here's my advice to you-- actually READ the threads that are already going on, and you'll see that many people here argue for Deism, take agnostic positions, etc. Hell, if you even searched "Matrix," you would find that I've used the term dozens of times in the past few months, and in threads that are currently active. You didn't even need to make new threads, because there are already good threads in which you could have participated with exactly the same kind of discourse, but without making it all about you.
But you didn't take an interest in the threads, or ideas, of anyone else. You just came in here and started puking up new threads, assuming that because you are a special snowflake, nobody in this atheist/anti-theist forum could already be talking about ID or about experiential agnosticism. But let me tell you now-- you'll have a VERY hard time finding any angle on religion or cosmology that doesn't already have dozens or hundreds of pages about it.
Well, that was only slightly insulting. Honestly, it seemed much more effective to start a new thread than to sift through hundreds of other threads and posts trying to find relevant discussion. I'm sorry if you think that was making it all about me. Honestly though, I'm not really very concerned about your opinion with regard to that matter.
Further, including "God" in the questions posed in the titles was done out of respect for the theists that I thought would also be part of these discussions. I didn't realize that it wasn't a welcoming environment for theists to participate in discussion. I realize that now.
Finally, your assumption that ID means "god" implies that you do not acknowledge any other opinions with regard to that concept. Some people may say there are other lifeforms on other planets that could be responsible for our reality. If I had to identify leanings personally, I would identify as a neutral monist, meaning I think that consciousness and matter are two ways of organizing or describing the same elements, wherefore it would be my own consciousness (and yours) that would be the intelligence that designed and influences the universe. Do you consider this a religious perspective? If so, did I ever once push it as an agenda? Um... No.