RE: Darwin Proven Wrong?
September 12, 2014 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2014 at 12:34 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(September 11, 2014 at 7:46 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: So, you do not think that the fact that mutated genes can be silenced by up to 70% and the unknown variables (such as 96% of potential environmental stimuli being uncontrolled for) should be considered with regard to our previous assumptions about natural selection?
Of course it should be considered. You weren't talking about considering it, you were talking about it negating evolution. Don't be weasely, please. It makes you look like you think the worst thing in the world is to admit you're wrong. Around here there's not much more you can do to earn respect than admit you're wrong gracefully. We respect the ability to update one's views during debate and be honest about it. The point isn't to win, the point is to advance understanding.
(September 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: I have researched it. I know what my opinion is.
And it's immune to additional information, eh?
(September 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: I'm interested in yours and why you have it.
I don't believe you. You've seemed far more interested in getting us to admit we think what you think we do. We keep telling you what we think, then you keep asking the same questions. How much do we have to answer your questions repetitively before you feel you've finally gotten our opinion?
(September 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: I agree that these labels have been put on unknown stuff (96% of reality) because it enables us to explain how the stuff we've observed is possible when it shouldn't be.
Shouldn't be according to who? Science isn't about what should be, it's about what is. There's no point in clinging to the past in the light of new information.
(September 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: I haven't found anything that confirms there has been any observations of the properties of said unknown stuff or that anything that would be considered scientific evidence of it's actual existence has been put forth.
Clearly they have properties such as causing gravitational lensing, holding galaxies together, and pushing them apart. Whatever is causing those effects exists.
(September 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: As far as I know, epigeneticists claim that methylation is constantly changing throughout the lifetime of every organism based on environmental influences and influences the expression of the genes significantly.
They certainly do claim that. But they don't claim it changes how evolution works, which is by selecting for genes that differentially affect reproductive success.
(September 11, 2014 at 8:06 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: So, my observations have been that my experience always moves with forward motion, wherefore, if I jump, splat. Physicists, however, say that the laws do not say that it has to happen that way. In fact, they said that according to the laws, I'm just as likely to experience in reverse time than forward time, the calculations work the same.
'The calculations work the same' doesn't indicate 'equally likely'. It might be equally likely for space-time to work in the other direction in a different continuum, but this one goes in the direction where you fall before you splat. The calculations don't indicate that time in our continuum could start working in reverse at any moment.
(September 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: Although I assume that I will continue to experience time in a forward moving direction in the future, I do not rule out the possibility that sometime there may be more information, new technology, etc, that would allow me to experience reality differently.
And you shouldn't rule it out. You should definitely have a better grasp of the odds, though.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.