RE: My Thoughts On Militant Atheism
September 15, 2014 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 5:13 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(September 15, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Celestine Wrote: Ha! A known falsehood! Yes religion should be kept out of public schools, that I can agree with you, but your government does a much better job at indoctrination than religion ever could hope to do! After all the government makes those textbooks and puts their own falsehoods that they present as truths in them. If only you knew how much of the things in your history books were false and not more than mere propaganda!
If only you knew how to relate that to militant atheism. Now it sounds like your problem is with Americans, who are notoriously non-atheistic as a country.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: In the Old Testament one of the ten commandments is thou shalt not kill, I don't ever remember reading anywhere Jesus telling to kill the unbelievers, and in Islam it only permits it when the people are attacking and killing Muslims or when another person unjustly kills another. At least from what I've read of the Quran so far.
It's better translated as 'thou shalt not murder', lawful killing was allowed, even required. Adulterers and Sabbath-breakers were to be stoned and witches not suffered to live in the OT. It's a particularly horrid method of execution involving community-participation still practiced in some parts of the world.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: Perhaps if you wouldn't ill treat them so much they wouldn't say you need to be killed?
What exactly is it that you think militant atheists have done to them? Do you think it's our fault because militant atheists voted in droves for Bush? If so, you might want to engage in a little more research.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: I think you fail to understand how much some atheists insult religion and the followers of religion.
Yes, some atheists are rude. Some members of every group are rude. Nixon was a Quaker.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: Granted I am not condemning religion, I have no reason to.
You've no more reason to condemn atheism than religion.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: I know what ails the world and it is not religion, I am seeking to guide you on the right path for you to find out the true source of suffering.
You could have the secrets of the universe, and if you were too stupidly inept to attract followers, whose fault would it be that you don't have any?
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: I could tell you, I could give you all the evidence in the world, I've tried it many times before. Like religious people many atheists have faith, faith in their dominions, and no matter how much evidence I presented to them they would not believe.
'I have good evidence, honest' is what they all say.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: They... all of them... rejected the evidence like creationists reject evolution, the atheists I debated with held on to their faith.
Maybe they evaluated your claims critically and found the flaws in them that kept them from holding together. We'll never know, I guess.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: I know now that I can not simply tell people, for they would never believe me.
I do not see how telling people is not exactly the tack you've taken with us. Only without the evidence.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: It tore me asunder to know that atheists whom I long believed were intellectual rational beings were just like the followers of religion whom I had been 'fighting' against for so long.
Some people are atheists because they're rational. No one is rational because they're an atheist.
(September 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Celestine Wrote: Now I only have one mission in life, to promote peace and equality among the many clans of humanity, and to end the corruption that is rife in the dominions. To do that I need to learn how to change you, how to make you look at the REAL problem.
I suggest you try the tactic of not being an asshole and shitting on everyone you think doesn't already agree with you.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.